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On 09/11/2014 12:20 PM, James wrote: |
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> Yes, I've been all over this. It's onto much of the Apache clustering |
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> codes that are not simple to configure in the ebuild. Besides the raw |
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> packege codes, like mesos, spark, scala, cassandra, etc there are a |
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> mulitude of fast moving codes written in Java and Python that need to |
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> be tested. Java is not difficult, but voluminous. Every problem |
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> somebody encouters, gets solved by some java "bolt on" code, rather |
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> than fixing/extending the main (mesos) sourcecode. As an old C hack, |
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> it's a tough pill to swallow, but I'm pursing this as best I can. I |
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> sure feel empathy for the java herd, but hey, now we are doing away |
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> with herds? |
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Part of the problem with a lot of open source Java projects is that they |
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*require* Oracle's Java build, and installing Oracle's JDK in Gentoo is |
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not a simple 'emerge <package_name_here>'. |
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> That said, I'm a bit stressed about 'maven'. We only have maven.bin. |
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> Much is dependant on it and java. For many reasons, java is not well |
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> supported in Gentoo. I just hope, I do not have to leave the Gentoo |
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> distro; because much of what I need (clustering) is java critical. You |
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> think I can build a gentoo cluster based on these? |
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I'm not a huge fan of Maven - it's a massive, complex morass. That said, |
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I can look into building it. |
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> Does the Gentoo dev team operate a robust gentoo cluster for gentoo |
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> development needs? Should they? |
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What would it do? Other than continuous integration, I can't see much |
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use (although I'm not a dev, so that's not saying much). |
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> Clusters that perform best are built on mesos/spark. |
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I can't remember the last time I saw Mesos/Spark on the TOP500 list... |
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but also, they're both young projects. |
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> But now, I need robust clustering and from the open source research |
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> work I have performed, Apache is the Only viable choice. Ubuntu has |
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> it. Debian Has it. RedHat has it. CentOS has it, but, we cannot |
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> (willnot?) sustain Apache style clustering at Gentoo because ? (dunno |
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> the reason; nothing seems plausible). |
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From what I can tell, the reason is that it is not worth anyone's time |
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to do the massive amount of development and maintainence for something |
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that they won't benefit from. |
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> Hell, I'd even be willing to pay for a java support to develop the |
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> java (sourcecode) based tools; but in the past that idea has been very |
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> frowned up by the gentoo "think tank". |
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If I wasn't in school I'd be all over this... |
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Anyways, I'll try and look at Maven. Not making any promises; I'm pretty |
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busy right now. |
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Alec |
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