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From: Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:46:59
Message-Id: CAG2nJkNdgxEgFNQmARcqeAWW4vWhy0+RSXcLHGXNxy=t6zjT6Q@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
2 <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com> wrote:
3 > with redhat's push to move everything into /usr - why not stop right there and
4 > move everything back into /?
5
6 I originally thought this way, but they actually reviewed the
7 technical and historical merits for all the use cases and and found
8 /usr to be superior. Straight out of the freedesktop wiki:
9 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge
10
11 0) If / and /usr are kept separate, programs in /usr can't be updated
12 independently of programs in /, because the libraries they depend on
13 might break compatibility. If the binaries and libraries were *all* in
14 /usr, then the entire system's binaries would always be consistent
15 regardless of where /usr were sourced from (config files in /etc,
16 however, would still break).
17 1) There is historical precedent in Unix for /usr-centric systems,
18 notably Solaris.
19 2) If /usr were separated from /, then /usr could be mounted
20 read-only, with / being mounted "normally". Which makes sense, as /
21 does have bits that are meant to be read-write.
22 3) Most software packagers write their binaries to a PREFIX defaulting
23 to /usr/local, or /usr, as opposed to /. Determining which ones belong
24 in / or /usr can sometimes be dependent on the distro and/or sysad.
25 But since more of them default to /usr, if everything were in /usr
26 it'd be a saner default.
27
28 (0) basically says that keeping them separate only works as intended
29 if the both the sysad and the distro upstream work together for their
30 shared /usr mount. In many cases, however, sysads have to do a lot of
31 working around and careful planning to get /usr mounted remotely.
32 (1), (2), and (3) provide advantages to mounting the binaries and
33 libraries separately from the / filesystem, which mounting them as
34 part of / does not provide.

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists@××××××××.uk>