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On 12.03.2013 14:44, Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:30:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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>>> not "has to be easy", but definitely, with such purpose. |
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>>> Do you disagree? Perhaps you reckon that the whole purpose of |
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>>> computing is to make life harder? :) |
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>> You know, this general topic rears it's head about every six months. The |
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>> answer never changes: |
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>> Gentoo is what it is, it works a certain way for a reason. Maybe you |
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>> like it, maybe you don't. Either way that is not going to change anytime |
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>> soon. What you could do is pitch in and do all the same heavy lifting |
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>> that our long-term devs have done, and be the change you want to see in |
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>> the world. |
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>> |
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>> That might involve dealing with the protestations of the existing devs |
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>> though and they will likely quote the "Gentoo is what it is" line. |
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> On the other hand, if you file bug report with a patch to the ebuild |
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> that checks the running kernel version and outputs an elog message of |
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> "you might want to try the in-kernel drivers". They may simply say "thank |
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> you". |
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The starting point has to be someone identifying the problem. |
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When you come e.g. to a car service and say, 'my engine is not working |
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properly e.g. ignition fails or sort of', do you expect the mechanic to |
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answer, 'hell why are you coming to me? you know the problem, c'mon fix |
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it yourself'? Or even more of it, 'your car is what it is, you wanna |
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drive -- buy a limousine for a couple hundred grands'? |
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Yes, you can expect that a gentoo user is more familiar with the things |
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but you can't expect everyone capable of everything. |
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And clearly, there are people who'd do it better than an average gentoo |
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user. |
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> This is not a unique situation, there are other out of tree drivers that |
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> give such a message, and plenty more that don't. All it needs is for |
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> someone to take the time to fix it - rather than demanding that someone |
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> else fixes it for them. |
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Yes, that's it -- if you can't do it yourself, just inform someone who |
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has the time and ability to fix it. And no profound discussions about |
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what gentoo is and what it is not. Because (it's my humble opinion of |
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course) he who discusses the most does the least. |
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-- |
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Best wishes, |
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Yuri K. Shatroff |
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