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Le 2015-08-27 20:31, Jeremi Piotrowski a écrit : |
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> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Michel Catudal wrote: |
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>> No one is asking them to do that. As mentioned before it works with some |
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>> override. A solution to the problem would be to remove the arrogance toward |
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>> people who want grub on a partition and remove the part in the installer that |
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>> refuses to install it unless you give it an override. |
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> To me they are dealing with this in the right way. As the developers they |
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> have to decide what setups they want to support as the spectrum is huge |
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> and manpower is limited. |
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> There are problems with installing grub to a partition, read [1]. |
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> Therefore it is not supported and not allowed by default, because if they |
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> don't do this people: |
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> 1. _will_ try installing to a partition |
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> 2. _will_ render their system unbootable |
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> 3. _will_ come running for help and complaining |
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> 4. _will_ get angry when you tell them `I told you so' |
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> Seems perfectly legit to want to spare yourself this trouble. |
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This is nonsense. I have never had a case where it would not boot when I have grub correctly installed on the partition. By having each distribution with its own bootloader they do not mess things up for the other. I keep 4 different linux distributions on |
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my computer plus Ecomstation. If in one experiment I goof on one distribution I have some others to help me recover. If one of the distributions that messes up is in control of the boot loader I am screwed. I do not want any operating system in charge of |
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the bootloader, isn't that clear enough? |
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If grub ever messes up the partition that will be because they added some troyan functions to piss off people who disagree with their ownership of the whole computer. |
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>> If I say write the |
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>> bootloader on the partition, that should work as requested, they can still |
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>> write a comment that they do not like us doing it but should not keep us from |
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>> doing it. If it doesn't work we will see it soon enough. |
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> I don't get you - that _is_ exactly what they are doing. You say 'write |
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> bootloader to partition' by adding the force flag and grub2 complains but |
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> does what it is told. |
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> [1]: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1229097#p1229097 |
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You missed the point, I do not want some installation treating me like a child by denying an install to protect me against myself. If I mess up my system it is nobody's business but mine. |
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For Linux Software visit |
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http://home.comcast.net/~mcatudal |
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/suzielinux/ |