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From: Ashley Dixon <ash@××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 01:40:41
Message-Id: 20200722013927.dbskcenueiknwu64@ad-gentoo-main
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?! by Walter Dnes
1 On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 09:30:07PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
2 > According to news item https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2020-06-24-xorg-server-dropping-default-suid.html
3 >
4 > * xorg-server will no longer be "suid" *BY DEFAULT*
5 > * that means *THE DEFAULT* is to require a logind server like systemd
6 > or elogind
7 >
8 > The news item also says...
9 >
10 > > Users who do not wish to use logind interface or have rare hardware
11 > > that does not use KMS and because of that, require root privileges
12 > > to operate, can manually re-enable 'suid' and disable 'elogind' USE
13 > > flags in order to preserve the previous behavior. However, please
14 > > note that this is heavily discouraged to run X server as root due
15 > > to security reasons. The 'suid' USE flag will remain as optional
16 > > opt-in for the need of legacy hardware.
17 >
18 > I've set "x11-base/xorg-server glamor suid udev xorg" in package.use
19 > and "-elogind" in make.conf, and no additional packages are required. I
20 > used to start with USE="-*" but I don't do that anymore. Instead I use
21 >
22 > USE="10bit X apng ffmpeg jpeg opengl png szip truetype x264 x265 xorg threads
23 > webp -acl -arping -berkdb -bindist -caps -cracklib -crypt -elogind -filecaps
24 > -gallium -gdbm -graphite -iconv -introspection -ipc -iptables -ipv6 -libav
25 > -libglvnd -llvm -manpager -nls -openmp -pam -pch -sendmail -tcpd -udev -udisks
26 > -unicode -xinerama"
27
28 There was a big argument about it over on Gentoo-Dev. It essentially reduced to
29 the point that although most Gentoo users are still going to want "suid" (in the
30 absence of systemd/elogind or another fancy login manager), Portage should
31 provide good, non-anti-pattern, secure defaults for _new_ users, however much
32 of an inconvenience it may be for existing users who run X with `startx`. I
33 generally agree with them on this point; "suid" is horribly outdated, however
34 ubiquitous (especially for minimalist systems).
35
36 https://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@l.g.o/msg89536.html
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40 Ashley Dixon
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