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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amarok fade down
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:39:48
Message-Id: 20120205213742.1caa7f77@khamul.example.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amarok fade down by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 10:02:19 -0600
2 Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > > Really strange decision !
5 >
6 > Actually no; the GStreamer plugin architecture is really nice, and
7 > nowadays any GST based player can reproduce basically anything under
8 > the sun. VLC is not as nice (IMHO), but last time I checked it worked
9 > almost as good as GStreamer.
10 >
11 > Xine was OK ten years ago; it was what I used to watch DVD's. Back
12 > then it was the only DVD player able to easily change subtitles
13 > (important to me, since back then I didn't understand spoken English).
14 > Then it was split into xine-ui and xine-lib, and then (if again I
15 > remember correctly), xine-lib was given a plugin mechanism. In other
16 > words, it wasn't designed; it evolved into the current form which can
17 > use plugins, and which is the only sane way to handle all the audio
18 > and video formats that come and go all the time.
19 >
20 > In short, both GStreamer and VLC can do anything that Xine do, and
21 > they probably do it better. If something is not working properly, it
22 > probably is a problem with the integration with KDE (via phonon). This
23 > should be fixed by them in a short time.
24
25 You are quite correct. It is not xine itself that is moribund, it is
26 the phonon integration with xine that has gone nowhere for a long
27 while. And so that aspect of phonon has been dropped.
28
29 phonon+xine wasn't dropped in favour of phonon+gstreamer. It's more a
30 case of the number of phonon devs that feel like working on gstreamer
31 is quite a lot (relatively) but the number of phonon devs working on
32 xine is rather few (I believe it is actually zero), so it died.
33
34 --
35 Alan McKinnnon
36 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com