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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Stephane Guedon <stephane@××××××××××.eu> wrote: |
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> Le samedi 4 février 2012 17:52:17, Nikos Chantziaras a écrit : |
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>> On 02/04/2012 05:04 PM, Stephane Guedon wrote: |
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>> > Hi all |
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>> > |
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>> > For a long time, my amarok doesn't fade down anymore each time I use vlc |
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>> > as phonon backend. As xine is said to be deprecated, I should switch. |
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>> > Does anyone of you use vlc as a phonon-backend and succeed in amarok fade |
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>> > down ? |
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>> > |
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>> > If no, what else to do ? |
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>> |
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>> The VLC backend is still quite buggy. Fades don't work and it's very |
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>> slow when seeking. Automatically playing the next song in the list is |
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>> also broken. |
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>> Try the GStreamer backend instead. It's also not as good as the Xine |
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>> backend, but still somewhat better than the VLC one. I'm astounded |
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>> though as to why KDE drops the best backend and keeps two broken ones. |
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>> Really stupid decisions going on lately in KDE camp. |
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> The bad thing is that it install many other piece of software ! |
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> Gstreamer is from gnome ! |
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GStreamer is not "from" GNOME, they are an independent project, hosted |
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at freedesktop.org. GStreamer uses glib, which arguably is originally |
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from GNOME, but everything uses glib nowadays (including KDE, check |
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the dependencies for systemsettings). |
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> Why using it rather than xine which is from kde ? |
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Xine is not from KDE. Xine existed before, if I remember correctly, |
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and doesn't use any KDE, Qt (nor GNOME, GTK+ and glib for that matter) |
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libraries. |
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> Really strange decision ! |
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Actually no; the GStreamer plugin architecture is really nice, and |
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nowadays any GST based player can reproduce basically anything under |
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the sun. VLC is not as nice (IMHO), but last time I checked it worked |
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almost as good as GStreamer. |
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Xine was OK ten years ago; it was what I used to watch DVD's. Back |
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then it was the only DVD player able to easily change subtitles |
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(important to me, since back then I didn't understand spoken English). |
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Then it was split into xine-ui and xine-lib, and then (if again I |
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remember correctly), xine-lib was given a plugin mechanism. In other |
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words, it wasn't designed; it evolved into the current form which can |
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use plugins, and which is the only sane way to handle all the audio |
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and video formats that come and go all the time. |
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In short, both GStreamer and VLC can do anything that Xine do, and |
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they probably do it better. If something is not working properly, it |
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probably is a problem with the integration with KDE (via phonon). This |
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should be fixed by them in a short time. |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |
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