Re: [gentoo-user] What's with this hald thing and why can't I rip CDs any more?

[Mark Knecht]

On Jan 9, 2008 5:16 PM, Dale <dalek1967@×××××××××.net> wrote:
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>  Naiani Rosa de Barros wrote:
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>  On Jan 9, 2008 7:08 PM, Naiani Rosa de Barros <naiani.princess@×××××.com>
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>  On Jan 9, 2008 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com> wrote:
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>  On Jan 9, 2008 10:49 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote:
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>  On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:41:16 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
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>  Things here are still basically a disaster. I rebooted. No change.
> sound-juicer still only rips the 1st six tracks and then skips the
> last seven. Pretty much the same on every CD I've tried so far. No
> messages in dmesg.
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>  Have you tried a different ripper? This could be a problem with
> sound-juicer, not hal/dbus.
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>  I emerged grip but it's not seeing the CD at all. I tried Aqualung but
> it didn't work either.
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> Seeing Dale's note I tried K3b, which I should have thought of before.
> It worked for the CD that was already in the drive so that was a step
> forward. When I inserted a new CD it got blocked by Gnome starting
> Totem automatically. When I closed Totem my hand then K3b was able to
> rip the second CD. I haven't listened to anything yet but at least the
> files look about right.
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> So, with all of that I am guessing that Totem was somehow blocking
> sound-juicer. Totem starting automatically when I insert a CD has
> never happened before. Is that because I turned on hald? If so do I
> really need hald or can I turn it off? Or maybe I need ivman to help
> hald do it's work better?
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>  Probably. HAL + ivman does that. Configure automounting/recognizing
> devices.
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>  Now that I'm thinking, actually, I don't think HAL by itself would do
> that. Maybe you already have all the stuff set up. But check out the
> Gentoo Wiki page I said before.
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>  Of course if there is some Gentoo page on how to run all this stuff
> correctly that it where I should really start.
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>  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ivman
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>  thanks,
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> Mark
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>  No problem. =)
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> Naiani
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>  Well, I picked up on something.  Hal or ivman, both installed here, locks
> access to my camera when I first turn it on.  Gtkam can not access the
> camera until it releases a lock on it.  You know when in KDE and you hook up
> something, it pops up the little thing asking what to do with it.  I hit
> cancel on that and wait a minute or two and then gtkam can access the camera
> as it should.
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>  So, it may be that SOMETHING, who knows what, is locking the drive and not
> releasing it like it should.  Keep in mind that I have KDE and not gnome
> here.  You may want to check how Gnome handles this sort of thing.  It may
> be some setting somewhere that is messing you up and be gnome specific.
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>  If you want to stop services, /etc/init.d/hald stop should work.  If you
> want to see what all is running then rc-status should help with that.  I
> have dbus, hald and ivman running on mine here.
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>  I hope that helps some cause I'm running out of ideas here.
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>  Dale
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Hi Dale,
   I disabled hald in rc-update and rebooted. Now Totem and Gnome are
not auto-mounting anything. K3b can see the CD. cddb and ripping seem
to work fine with hald disabled.

   I think the overall set of problems were:

1) sound-juicer has developed some sort of regression

2) hald & Gnome were conspiring to make my system too automatic for my tastes

   At this point I'm in good shape and wondering what the future is
going to bring me. Am I putting off the inevitable by not letting hald
have it's evil ways with my computer? Will it be required in the
future? I thought a lot of that sort of automatic device stuff was
supposed to be done by udev so why I need more is beyond me.

   Anyway, the computer is functional and I can rip with at least one
app so I'm back in business.

Thanks,
Mark
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