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On 2011-09-27, Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> Am Montag 26 September 2011, 20:13:53 schrieb Grant Edwards: |
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>> On 2011-09-26, Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:37 PM, pk <peterk2@××××××××.se> wrote: |
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>> >> Hi, |
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>> >> |
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>> >> Happened upon this interview with Linus Torvalds that some of you |
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>> >> might |
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>> >> find interesting (if you haven't seen it already): |
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>> >> |
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>> >> http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Feature-Articles/Linus-Torvalds-s-Lessons |
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>> >> -on-Software-Development-Management/ba-p/440> |
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>> > Yeah, I just saw that. Admittedly, when I saw this section: |
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>> > |
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>> > --begin-section-- |
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>> [...] |
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>> > Breaking the user experience in order to ???fix??? something |
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>> > is a totally broken concept; you cannot do it. |
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>> That's hilarious. |
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>> The Linux developers are _constantly_ changing APIs in ways that break |
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>> existing device driver code. There are repeatedly wholesale |
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>> re-designs of some APIs that happen between minor versions of a |
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>> supposedly "stable" kernel. |
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> which is seriously not a problem and does not matter in the |
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> slightest. |
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That depends on whether you have to maintain Linux drivers or not. ;) |
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Regardless, my point was that Linus's statement that it's unacceptable |
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to break things seemed rather disingenuous given the API churn that |
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Linux has compared with the BSD kernels. |
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> They NEVER change user-space APIs and ABIs in incompatible ways. THAT is |
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> important. |
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Indeed, that's very important. |
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>> Often our Linux drivers have to be updated every 3-4 _months_ |
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>> to keep up with changes in the kernel that break things. |
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> which is your own fucking fault. |
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> Get your drivers into the kernel. Problem solved. |
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We tried that approach. It didn't work -- it just generates a lot |
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more work. |
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