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From: AG <computing.account@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Basic queries regarding installation from an outsider looking in
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:23:25
Message-Id: 4A34FA08.2080100@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Basic queries regarding installation from an outsider looking in by Alan McKinnon
1 Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:02:50 AG wrote:
3 >
4 >> Hi all
5 >>
6 >> Thanks for the responses to my earlier query regarding co-location of
7 >> Debian and Gentoo on the same HDD.
8 >>
9 >> I still have a few questions regarding an installation before I take the
10 >> plunge:
11 >>
12 >> (1) Looking through the background docs, it occurs to me that if I
13 >> wanted to install Gentoo on my system, I would need access to a second
14 >> machine that is running all of the on-line docs that guide one through
15 >> the installation process. Is this correct? If not, how does one refer
16 >> to the (seemingly quite comprehensive) guidelines whilst in the middle
17 >> of an installation?
18 >>
19 >
20 > With links or link2 or lynx - it's on the stage 3.
21 >
22 > Get network up and running, view docs in text mode
23 >
24 >
25 It looks like an installation in a chroot space on my current machine
26 will be the way I'll go on this one. If I can find the parts, I might
27 even go so far as patching together an older box and dedicating it to
28 the great take-on Gentoo project! In which case, this would be an
29 interesting route to pursue. But, for now, I'm likely to go the chroot way.
30 >> (2) When Gentoo installs its libraries, does this duplicate the
31 >> libraries already on my machine? For instance - if I have OOo and KDE
32 >> and Xfce4 loaded as part of my Debian Squeeze system, will Gentoo also
33 >> install its own version of OOo, KDE and Xfce4 alongside the Deb files?
34 >> I was thinking that this would have a number of implications in terms of
35 >> space and (potentially) in how the drive is partitioned for the Gentoo
36 >> installation ... unless I'm missing the point?
37 >>
38 >
39 > Yes. You have two complete operating systems, and they share very little, if
40 > anything. Don't try and be tempted to share binaries - that way does madness
41 > lie.
42 >
43 >
44 Thanks for the heads' up! I'm beginning to get a clearer picture of how
45 this would actually work now.
46
47 >> (3) What differences would I likely experience between running my
48 >> Debian installation and the Gentoo installation?
49 >>
50 >
51 > That's not a question that anyone except you can answer - it's like asking me
52 > what different experience will you have between your ex-wife and current
53 > girlfriend. I have no idea, nor any way to find out.
54 >
55 >
56 Interesting analogy, but your point is taken. It was a bit of an unfair
57 question really.
58 > They will be different, that much is true. Gentoo will work the way you set it
59 > up, I can't even warn you about sudo instead of su a la Ubuntu as Gentoo let's
60 > you do it either way. If you use Gnome, you will get Gnome's default theme (a
61 > blue one?) instead of say Ubuntu's Human theme. Changing that is a simple
62 > emerge and a few mouse clicks.
63 >
64 I don't know *buntu. I'm on Squeeze (testing) and am having a good time
65 with it. After Slackware's rock-climbing experience of system
66 maintenance, I feel quite spoilt having a tool like apt at my
67 fingertips. Debian does have some interesting policy implementations
68 with renaming Firefox, etc., but these are minor and aside from my
69 inclination to call apps by their given name there is no inconvenience.
70 > What you will do is spend an insane amount of time trying to figure out what a
71 > certain USE flag actually does an if you want it. Debian doesn't give you that
72 > choice.
73 >
74 >
75 Is this an example of that infinite adaptability of Gentoo as a metadistro?
76
77 Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Basic queries regarding installation from an outsider looking in Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>