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From: Dale <dalek@××××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:27:40
Message-Id: 45B5D33C.9030704@exceedtech.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux? by Daniel da Veiga
1 Daniel da Veiga wrote:
2 > On 1/22/07, Eric Bohn <bsee_1991@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >> In the US, I'm almost certain you wouldn't be able to get away with
4 >> running Gentoo, and more specifically, Portage, the way you
5 >> apparently do in a secure govt environment. There's probably a
6 >> federal directive or regulation somewhere that prevents machines
7 >> being run in govt organizations from using non-standard or officially
8 >> unapproved technology and/or procedures, and for good reason...
9 >>
10 >
11 > I know of many universities, not only from Brazil, but around the
12 > world, that use Gentoo. There are many security features in portage,
13 > and I believe Gentoo servers and mirrors have some security also, else
14 > it would be too easy to compromise thousands of installations around
15 > the world, and no cracker would miss this opportunity.
16 >
17 > Non-standard and officially unapproved technology sounds more like
18 > "put someone in control of all tech used in the public sector of IT",
19 > more like antitrust than standardizing.
20 >
21 >> I've had Portage hose my Gentoo install twice before to the point
22 >> that I could no longer run Portage, and I run stable, not testing.
23 >> Using Portage you're putting yourself at the mercy of any Joe Schmoe
24 >> with a proxy connection to a Gentoo server that wants to compromise
25 >> your machine. Even most commercial organizations, for job critical
26 >> computing, have administrators that establish mirror servers for
27 >> software testing prior to internal distribution.
28 >>
29 >
30 > As I mentioned before, I don't think we are at the mercy of any
31 > cracker around by using Gentoo. Of course some level of security would
32 > be needed, any OS requires that, but lets not hijack this thread, as
33 > the OP was talking about DESKTOP installations.
34 >
35 >> It didn't sound like the OP was intending for anyone to do sys admin
36 >> tasks with Gentoo either, I imagine that could prove to be risky
37 >> using any Linux distro.
38 >>
39 >
40 > Yeah, that's one more reason for a Gentoo install. And just for the
41 > record, ANY OS needs sys admin tasks once in a while, if not for
42 > initial install, because of breakage, and believe me, I had my quota
43 > of breakage before using Gentoo.
44 >
45
46 As someone who started out using Mandrake, I have to say that using
47 Gentoo has been a LOT easier. Yea, I had to learn how to use Gentoo and
48 it is different from Mandrake by far but it is a whole lot easier to
49 manage. I have been using Gentoo for about 2 or 3 years for my desktop
50 and I would not consider switching to any other distro. I spend a lot
51 less time messing with my Gentoo install that I did Mandrake. The
52 upgrade process with Mandrake was . . . . a disaster. From what I
53 understand Redhat and Mandrake are pretty close. I certainly wouldn't
54 switch to Redhat then.
55
56 As for security, I have had several times that my internet connection
57 was messed up and the md5 sums didn't match. Portage didn't hesitate to
58 delete those puppies and let me know that something was changed. It
59 would seem to me that it would be difficult for someone to change the
60 source code on one server then change the other files on the rsync
61 server so they both match up.
62
63 Well, that my $0.02 worth. Some of what is being said just doesn't make
64 sense to me at all. Gentoo is a lot better than some distros. It
65 certainly beats windoze.
66
67 Dale
68
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux? Martins <mar@××.lv>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux? Mark Kirkwood <markir@××××××××××××.nz>