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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What's with the stability pact?
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:08:23
Message-Id: CA+czFiA2RuhQ5YUYXuHOe2ULVjC=Zc-23Uh8r7CHAu+dRu1gKQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] What's with the stability pact? by Alan Mackenzie
1 On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@×××.de> wrote:
2 > Hi, Gentoo!
3 >
4 > Why are there so many packages whose versions never become stable?  By
5 > "many", I mean here at least two.  :-)
6 >
7 > These are the kernel and Firefox.
8 >
9 > My kernel is currently 2.6.39-gentoo-r3, built on July 18.  By examining
10 > ebuilds, I now see that the ~amd64 is already up to 3.0.4-r1.  I've
11 > missed 3.0.[0-3], it seems.
12
13 The 2.6.x has stabilized versions. 3.x has been kept masked, because
14 even though it isn't significantly different from the latest 2.6.x, a
15 lot of tools were shown to fall apart when they see 3.x.y rather than
16 2.6.x.
17
18 > My Firefox is on 3.6.20.  Firefox 4 and 5 never became stable, and their
19 > ebuilds have disappeared already.  Firefox 6 is still ~amd64.
20
21 No idea. I switched to chromium, partly as a result of that. (I wasn't
22 comfortable unmasking things yet...)
23
24 > Am I being unreasonable feeling a bit peeved?  I really don't want to
25 > have to guess which "unstable" versions are actually "stable enough".
26
27 You want a fun one? Take a look at ekiga.
28
29 > Is this phenomenom something new, or am I just new enough myself that
30 > I've never noticed before?
31
32 It's not new, I don't think, but it's somewhat dependent on the ebuild
33 maintainer and changing conditions of the packages themselves. The
34 kernel upstream broke things by changing its version numbering with
35 little(?) warning. Firefox upstream has sorta broken things by
36 switching to a rapid release cycle, and I suppose the ebuild
37 maintainer hasn't caught up with the pattern shift. (Like anyone else
38 who uses FF in an institutional setting has, either...)
39
40 --
41 :wq

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Re: [gentoo-user] What's with the stability pact? Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info>