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Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk: |
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> On 2011-09-18 14:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> > So you are going from a single bug to 'it must be evil'. If you do that |
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> > all the time there isn't much software left. |
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> |
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> You said: "I bet you can't even measure a |
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> difference between dbus running and dbus not running in speed or |
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> responsiveness of your gui." |
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> I only pointed out that that was not always correct (I don't run |
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> Ubuntu). And I have had a _lot_ of problems with dbus (again, this was |
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> years ago, running binary distros - it's only recently that I had dbus |
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> installed again due to Xfce4 requiring it); if I get burnt by some piece |
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> of software (usually it's gnome/freedesktop related - seems a lot of bad |
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> ideas/implementations come from that "place") I try to go "elsewhere". |
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> So if your experience with dbus is different, then fine, by all means |
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> use it; it is your choice. But I choose to avoid it, if possible. |
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> And yes, it seems no matter how hard I try the "gnome" paradigm ('evil' |
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> software) seems to be inching ever closer... I think developers, in |
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> general, should take some hints from this guy: |
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> http://www.sics.se/~adam/ |
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> ... he created this: |
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> http://www.contiki-os.org/p/about-contiki.html |
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> ... running this: |
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> http://www.c64web.com/ |
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> Best regards |
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> |
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> Peter k |
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well, I haven't run in that dbus-uses-100%-cpu bug. But I also take every and |
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all ubuntu bug reports with a huge amount of salt because of all the patches |
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they include. |
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But: |
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106 2740 0.0 0.0 20296 1484 ? Ss Sep11 0:20 |
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/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system |
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1000 4852 0.0 0.0 18124 420 ? S Sep11 0:00 |
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/usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session |
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1000 4853 0.1 0.0 16576 4916 ? Ss Sep11 11:20 |
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/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session |
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root 5535 0.0 0.0 18268 560 pts/0 S Sep11 0:00 dbus-launch |
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--autolaunch bd5372f2e9f3742ccd79bd310000000a --binary-syntax --close-stderr |
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root 5536 0.0 0.0 11268 624 ? Ss Sep11 0:00 |
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/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session |
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1000 21585 0.0 0.0 106240 912 pts/5 S+ 15:34 0:00 grep dbus |
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uptime |
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15:35:37 up 7 days, 14:37, 11 users, load average: 0.14, 0.06, 0.05 |
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again, if it you say 'it must be bad because there is a bug in it' you can |
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disregard all software ever written. On a normal, not ubuntu system you won't |
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notice dbus running. |
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And since you have one standardized IPC system in place, all the apps don't |
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need to invent another one resulting in less code executed, less code in ram |
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and less code on your harddisk. |
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