| 1 |
On 8/28/20 5:00 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: |
| 2 |
> On 8/28/20 1:18 PM, antlists wrote: |
| 3 |
>> The main reason other applications use "TCP over HTTP(S)" is because |
| 4 |
>> stupid network operators block everything else! |
| 5 |
> |
| 6 |
> I agree that filtering is a problem. |
| 7 |
> |
| 8 |
> I also think that it's something that most people can overcome when they |
| 9 |
> control the firewall between the private LAN and the Internet.� (Your |
| 10 |
> typical SOHO NATing gateway.) |
| 11 |
> |
| 12 |
> The few times that I have run into filtering, it has been for |
| 13 |
> uninitiated inbound connections.� I've almost always been able to |
| 14 |
> initiate outbound connections to / from odd ports.� The few times that I |
| 15 |
> could not do so in the last 20 years were resolved by engaging the ISP |
| 16 |
> and ... politely ... getting them to knock it off.� Inbound can be more |
| 17 |
> tricky.� But even inbound HTTP(S) was subject to the same problems. |
| 18 |
> Actually, inbound HTTP(S) was more of a problem than other ports. |
| 19 |
|
| 20 |
|
| 21 |
|
| 22 |
The more I hear, the more the FEDS and judges need to get involve. From |
| 23 |
what I read, it's and education problem. This is commonly referred to as |
| 24 |
'racketeering' |
| 25 |
and is extremely illegal, meaning the FEDS fine them super high amounts |
| 26 |
of money, and judges rubber stamp the fines. |
| 27 |
|
| 28 |
You want to play and compete in the US? A fair economic playground is |
| 29 |
constitutionally required. There is so |
| 30 |
much case law, that it is ridiculous. What case law does is establish |
| 31 |
precedence. And that precedence of relevant case builds a HUGH argument |
| 32 |
that most judges will not ignore. Combine that with the fact that the |
| 33 |
general public, will side with us? SlameDunk, in legal parlance. |
| 34 |
|
| 35 |
Anyone with access to legal precedence setting case law, can research |
| 36 |
this out. I had no idea what a pile of Horse S. this has become. It is |
| 37 |
totally illegal. Even if I were to loose, on Gentoo's behalf, a legal |
| 38 |
battle, going public will destroy their pierce strings. All of this |
| 39 |
should be codified in RFCs, or labeled as optional. |
| 40 |
WE do need to get organized, before seeking legal moguls to assist this |
| 41 |
public effort. |
| 42 |
|
| 43 |
The more I dig, the more I realize it is way past time to fix this |
| 44 |
illegal activity. My guess is a well documented and organized effort is |
| 45 |
the first step. |
| 46 |
Then a few mavericks educating politicians and filing briefs with the |
| 47 |
court systems will get the ball rolling. |
| 48 |
|
| 49 |
I kicked Verizon's Ass, back when they were call GTE, so it's routine |
| 50 |
for me to kick some big corps ass. If we get, just 0.1 % of their |
| 51 |
subscribers onboard, it's a done deal. |
| 52 |
|
| 53 |
Cell phone criminal activity by the big telco operators is 'part and |
| 54 |
parcel' to this HS too. My question is have a few technical devs had |
| 55 |
enough? There are plenty of tech-savie High School kids that need |
| 56 |
jobs. Think of it as a jobs program. Started here in the US, but easily |
| 57 |
expandable to most countries. |
| 58 |
|
| 59 |
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/27/china-tech-facebook-google/ |
| 60 |
|
| 61 |
James |
Archives