Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Managing rDNS with BIND
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:43:56
Message-Id: 20120114224217.75153f41@khamul.example.con
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Managing rDNS with BIND by Carlos Sura
1 On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:35:16 -0600
2 Carlos Sura <carlos.sura1@××××××××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > On 8 January 2012 16:02, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
5 > wrote:
6 >
7 > > On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:45:44 -0600
8 > > Carlos Sura <carlos.sura1@××××××××××.com> wrote:
9 > >
10 > > > Hello mates,
11 > > >
12 > > > I have a problem, my provider does not want to set rDNS to my IP's
13 > > > since I have 5 IP's rotating for my server, I don't know why. So
14 > > > he told me I can do this manually.
15 > > >
16 > > > So I've added this as a master zone:
17 > > > $ttl 38400
18 > > > 80.236.109.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA dominio.dominio.com.
19 > > > abuse.dominio.com. (notice that last digits are miss)
20 > > > 1325905990
21 > > > 10800
22 > > > 3600
23 > > > 604800
24 > > > 38400 )
25 > > > 80.236.109.in-addr.arpa. IN NS dominio.dominio.com.
26 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR dominio.com.
27 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mail.dominio.com.
28 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ns1.dominio.com.
29 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR dominio.com.
30 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mail.dominio.com.
31 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ns2.dominio.com.
32 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR dominio.com.
33 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mail.dominio.com.
34 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR dominio.com.
35 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mail.dominio.com.
36 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR dominio.com.
37 > > > xx.xx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mail.dominio.com.
38 > > >
39 > > >
40 > > > But it does not reflect any change in any machine, just in the
41 > > > local machine I get the answer, when I try in any other machine,
42 > > > it still showing me the rDNS of my provider.
43 > >
44 > >
45 > > The reason is quite simple and most sane ISPs will do it that way.
46 > >
47 > > rDNS is NOT your A records in reverse, and you have no right of
48 > > access to the zone.
49 > >
50 > > in-addr.arpa serves an entirely different purpose, it documents the
51 > > layout of the ISPs address space. Your 5 IPs have not been
52 > > delegated to you and you do not own them per whois, they still
53 > > belong to your ISP and are merely recorded in the ISP record as
54 > > assigned for your use.
55 > >
56 > > Therefore the ISP will use their own documentation standards to
57 > > determine what is in the rDNS zone.
58 > >
59 > > Additionally, delegating out a /29 is a gigantic pain in the arse
60 > > and leads to an unmaintainable mess in very short order (so says
61 > > the poor sucker that's had to fix it...). At work we never
62 > > sub-delegate out rDNS to customers; but we do do it for downstream
63 > > re-sellers as they are ISPs in the in own right.
64 > >
65 > > So your ISP is quite correct in what they are saying. However, I
66 > > would like to see a clarification of what your support contact
67 > > means when he says "do it manually" - that doesn't make any sense
68 > >
69 > > --
70 > > Alan McKinnon
71 > >
72 > >
73 >
74 > Hello Alan McKinnon,
75 >
76 > Thank you for your answer, I get you now you explained everything I
77 > needed to know. About my ISP, they changed it for me, since I was
78 > sending a lot of ticket support to them, because they have a poor
79 > support, I understand they don't manage and help me with a lot of
80 > things, basically I don't need them, the only thing I was asking for
81 > is to set the rDNS for me, hopefully they did, cause I told them,
82 > that I really don't understand what they mean by "do it by myself"
83 > and I was reading all BIND ebook to understad how delegation works.
84 >
85 > Regards
86 >
87
88 Hi Carlos,
89
90 I'm glad to hear you came right.
91
92 Yes, having your ISP update their rDNS with your machine's name is the
93 best solution all round.
94
95
96 --
97 Alan McKinnnon
98 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com