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From: Miroslav Rovis <miro.rovis@××××××××××××××.hr>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? Youtube... Audio: No
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 05:49:55
Message-Id: 20161218055009.GA11155@g0n.xdwgrp
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No by Walter Dnes
1 On 161217-20:56-0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
2 > I'm running Pale Moon. In an xterm, I did...
3 >
4 > export SSLKEYLOGFILE=/dev/shm/sslkeylogfile.txt
5 >
6 > ...and launched Pale Moon manually from the commandline. nd visited a
7 > couple of https sites. I did get /dev/shm/sslkeylogfile.txt which
8 > begins with the line...
9 >
10 > # SSL/TLS secrets log file, generated by NSS
11 >
12 > Following that are a bunch of lines starting with...
13 >
14 > CLIENT_RANDOM
15 >
16 > ...followed by a space, followed by 161 random hex-numeric characters
17 > i.e. [0-9a-f].
18 >
19 > I also saw a line beginning with...
20 >
21 > RSA
22 >
23 > ...followed by a space, followed by 113 random hex-numeric characters
24 > i.e. [0-9a-f].
25
26 The very usual and familiar text that I take all --really all-- the
27 time. Ever since I was pwned:
28 System attacked, Konqueror went on window-popping spree!
29 https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-905472.html
30 (
31 Ah, and my Vimeo videos are back; not the Youtube ones, and it happened
32 relatively recently that my vimeo videos are back, linked from that
33 five, 5, years old topic on Gentoo Forums, as I informed here when they
34 too were removed:
35 https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-905472-start-25.html#7881412
36
37 Plus, no way for me to update the Forums, since some people, like one of
38 the Site Admins there, really don't like me:
39 Was I really hijacking topics from other members?
40 https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1041614.html
41 Ctrl-F "your account has been banned.", currently still the very last
42 line, date was: "Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:14 am"
43 )
44
45 [Ever since I was pwned], I inquired a lot about this capabilitiy, and
46 some btwn 1 and 2 years ago I learned that since some times 2013 or
47 around there (so I was just around 2 years late from the beeding edge
48 development), Wireshark can read what Firefox SSL-keys captures, and
49 since then I capture SSL-keys all the time time.
50
51 > If you plan to do this regularly, your program launcher will need to
52 > launch bash scripts with seperate filenames for each profile. Maybe
53 > append date-time stamp to filenames to avoid multiple sessions
54 > overwriting each other.
55 In Firefox, you just need very little settings on the outside, :
56 https://wiki.wireshark.org/SSL
57 >
58 > As for privacy, there are the usual features, like...
59 >
60 > * asking sites to not track (don't trust that)
61 > * control of which sites to accept/refuse regular cookies, and 3rd-party
62 > cookies, from
63 > * whether or not to clear browsing and download history
64 > * private browsing session
65 I think some of the suggested extensions/addons here:
66 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Tor
67 (sadly) use Australis I currently have eff-https everywhere,
68 RequestPolicy-continued, Privacy Badger, NoScript and Agent Spoofer.
69 Some of them, I read (but don't remember which ones), use Australis...
70
71 But...
72 > --
73 > Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
74 > I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
75 >
76 ...But thanks, why was this so hard to tell... See there in the Pale
77 Moon forums, nobody replied (yet)...
78
79 How come people are so little interested to read the traffic?
80
81 I have all kinds of traces posted (
82 far from expert talk, but still
83 useful stuff in somebody wants to learn to read the traffic of his own:
84 http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/
85 )...
86
87 How come people are so little interested to read the traffic, to learn
88 how sites behave which they visit, and often to discover what sites
89 really do to them?
90
91 I'll go and inquire at the Pale Moon forum about the issues above, and
92 will post there this exact question above, I think.
93
94 Also, if this is really true, the Wireshark SSL wiki (the link above)
95 needs to be updated...
96
97 And more, wait...
98
99 Wait... Did you need to patch the nss library to get the $SSLKEYLOGFILE
100 being written to? Like in this bug:
101
102 >=dev-libs/nss-3.24 - Add USE flag to enable SSL key logging
103 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587116
104
105 Did you? (That's about the only patch there, that I submitted to
106 Bugzilla anywhere ;-) btw.)
107
108 I'm puzzled... And overwhelmed with work, because I must now find time
109 to install and set Pale Moon to the (SSL) traffic (and I'm really a slow
110 worker).
111
112 (Still half-disbelieving... so surprised I am.)
113 --
114 Miroslav Rovis
115 Zagreb, Croatia
116 http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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