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On Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 15:27:36 Philip Webb wrote: |
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> 160712 Mick wrote: |
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> > On Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 20:06:05 Jens Reinemuth wrote: |
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> >> KDE 5 is usable iff you dont use kdepim/akonadi with mailing lists ... |
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> >> As soon as my count of Mails grow over some thousands, |
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> >> Akonadi simply stops working, ie is no longer fetching or displaying |
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> >> Mail. |
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> >> The desktop is cool and stable pim is not really since some versions ago. |
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> > I don't use the full plasma desktop, but use KDEPIM and some other KDE |
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> > apps |
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> > with all their unavoidable dependencies. It is usable for me, |
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> > on two machines where akonadi is running on MySQL |
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> > and on my laptop with PostgreSQL. I use Enlightenment as my day to day DE |
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> > and Fluxbox as a fall back. Having to install some parts of Plasma |
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> > does not mean you have to use it as your desktop. |
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> I'm quite satisfied with Fluxbox & have no intention of using KDE desktop. |
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> > You need some CPU horsepower and patience |
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> > to let Akonadi index all messages in the database. |
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> > If your PC is resource constrained, |
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> > it'll have trouble managing large mail boxes. |
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> > I remember a Pentium Duo with 4G RAM taking overnight to update mailboxes, |
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> > which in their totality contained more than 125,000 messages. |
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> > When I repeated the exercise with < 5000 messages, the response |
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> > was much more reasonable : it took a few minutes, rather than hours. |
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> I've been a contented user of Mutt since 1998, so that's no problem. |
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> BTW Whatever is the point of keeping 125 K mail messages ? |
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> -- at 1 min each , it would take 90 days to read them (without sleep). |
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With Gmail I used to (almost) never delete messages and they accumulated over |
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the years. Kmail searches through them very efficiently. |
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> As for desktop indexing, it's simply an overweight tool |
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> for those too lazy to keep their directories + files in proper order |
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> (smile). It seems to have been invented to try to help users of proprietary |
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> systems which make it difficult to keep track of anything for long. |
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The semantic desktop with database indexing was an attempt of Linux to break |
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into the MSWindows monopoly of the enterprise desktop. The world has moved |
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since, but back then EU money was invested to kick all this off. |
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> Anyone else have comments on using KDE 5 ? -- thanks so far. |
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Unlike Neil I found Plasma 5 a major climb down from KDE4 in terms of |
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interface usability. A lot of things were broken and for me still are. For |
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example Konqueror on my laptop does not integrate with Dolphin anymore, menu |
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icons on Dolphin are not shown, Network places are empty, Kim4 does not show |
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up in the dropdown menu, etc. I noticed the same problems on a desktop which |
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had the full Plasma5 desktop installed. |
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Things are gradually improving, but they are at present a rather retrograde |
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attempt at improving something which was not broken. In other words, similar |
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to the KDE3 to KDE4 migration, but not as bad this time. |
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At least two ex-KDE4 users asked me to remove Plasma from the their desktop |
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and install something different ... |
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Regards, |
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Mick |
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