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On 25/06/2021 09:46, Michael wrote: |
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> On Friday, 25 June 2021 08:50:32 BST antlists wrote: |
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>> On 23/06/2021 10:11, jdm wrote: |
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>>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:17:41 +0100 |
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>>> Michael <confabulate@××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>> On Monday, 21 June 2021 17:27:31 BST Wols Lists wrote: |
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>>>>> What happens when you get to the end of the handbook? |
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>>>>> I want to get a working Wayland setup with a (multi-user) graphical |
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>>>>> login. When I set my old system up ($DEITY knows how long ago) I |
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>>>>> seem to remember a page on setting up X, and all sorts of stuff. |
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>>>>> Now, you seem to get dumped at working tty1 prompt, and then the |
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>>>>> *helpful* documentation JUST STOPS. It doesn't even point you at |
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>>>>> anything! (Yes it points you at the portage page about how to |
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>>>>> maintain your system, but that isn't much use if you can't DO |
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>>>>> anything with the system...) |
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>>>>> I've found the page on Wayland, but it just says "set this use flag |
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>>>>> and install two packages". |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> Where's the documentation that tells me what I need, and how to set |
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>>>>> it up, please ... |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> Cheers, |
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>>>>> Wol |
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>>>> |
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>>>> Have you tried using a Display Manager? Some of my systems won't |
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>>>> work with Wayland, but I haven't spent time to find out why all I get |
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>>>> with them is a black screen. |
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>>>> Anyway, from a VT you'd run something like: |
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>>>> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland |
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>>>> or |
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>>>> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session gnome-session |
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>>> There is a wayland greeter which uses greetd and gtkgreet which may |
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>>> be worth looking at and there is a gentoo wiki which goes a long with |
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>>> it. It works with wayfire which is a nice wayland window manager and is |
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>>> very reliable. |
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>>> Also look at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland_Desktop_Landscape |
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>> Thanks, but I'm none the wiser ... the thing is, for X the instructions |
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>> are simple - "install xorg, run startx". |
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>> Okay, I've done that and got errors I need to solve, but with Wayland I |
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>> just don't have a clue. I don't know what I need, I don't know how to |
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>> start it, all I've got is a pile of bits in a box, and I don't know what |
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>> to do with them. |
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>> Everything I find is like a meccano set - there's loads of bits and |
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>> pieces, but no instructions, and I don't have a clue how they fit |
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>> together. Where's the recipe that says "do this this and this and you |
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>> should have a gui"? |
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>> Cheers, |
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>> Wol |
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> From what I recall as long as you set USE="wayland" globally and re-emerge |
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> world with '--changed-use' you should able to launch your dekstop in wayland, |
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> rather than Xserver. |
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> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland |
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> There is a caveat, to make things simple: your desktop environment should have |
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> full support for wayland compositing - e.g. Plasma and Gnome come ready baked |
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> with their own compositor and will run in Wayland. Window managers which do |
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> not possess a compositor will require one installed separately, as noted in |
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> jdm's post, but then we're getting into a box with a pile of bits in it. |
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> |
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> To launch wayland you can either install a Display Manager and select to start |
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> wayland from its GUI options, instead of X11, or you can run the stanzas I |
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> provided above. |
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Bear in mind my profile is desktop/plasma/systemd ... |
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This is very informative, but it blows up on me ... I've checked that |
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wayland is in my use flags so that should all be okay ... |
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# XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland |
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... startplasma-wayland not found ... |
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# emerge qtgreet |
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emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "qtgreet". |
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So you've massively helped in that I now know much better how things fit |
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together, but unfortunately you've also been no help at all in that the |
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stuff you've pointed at doesn't work ... |
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Where do I go from here ... |
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Cheers, |
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Wol |