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From: Grant <emailgrant@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:16:53
Message-Id: 49bf44f10608212007g69b606f9k48f216e44d42ea36@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Greylisting vs. reject_rbl_client by kashani
1 > > Do you think the reject_rbl_client stuff is safer than greylisting?
2 > >
3 > > - Grant
4 >
5 > 1. Blacklists have the HIGHEST false positive rate of any anti-spam
6 > technique other than sending all mail to /dev/null. 34%
7 > http://www.paulgraham.com/falsepositives.html
8 >
9 > 2. Blacklists block the least amount of spam. 24%
10 > So it's wrong more often than right.
11 >
12 > 3. All Blacklists are run by jackasses. Yes, even the ones you like.
13 > http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/8_1143551
14 > http://www.peacefire.org/anti-spam/group-statement.5-17-2001.html
15 > http://www.networkworld.com/research/2001/0910feat.html
16 >
17 > and far too much personal experience*
18 >
19 > In my experience over the past two to three years greylisting and
20 > simple header checks have blocked 99% of spam before it gets to the
21 > queue and generated less admin overhead with false positives and other
22 > nonsense. I'd call its accuracy a solid 99.9% since I've only had to
23 > whitelist three sets of servers over the years, YMMV. It might not be
24 > 99.9 for everyone, but it will be far better than blacklisting. There
25 > are some quirks with greylisting, but overall it's been very effective
26 > without much downside.
27 >
28 > I can't say enough bad things about blacklisting.
29 >
30 > kashani
31 >
32 > * The first ISP I worked for actually hosted public.com which has
33 > probably been the most hijacked domain ever. It's a fun Monday morning
34 > when some moron decided to block your entire ISP without actually
35 > looking at the headers. It gets slightly less fun the fifth and sixth
36 > time it happens. Homicide is considered when they assume they are
37 > automatically right, are as rude as possible to you, and then stall for
38 > a day before they grudgingly remove you.
39
40 I've removed the blacklisting and thank you very much for your
41 response. I guess I'm back to greylisting and/or content filtering.
42
43 - Grant
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