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quoth the Mark Knecht: |
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> I don't buy that it's my issue created by a long time between updates. |
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> I could turn on any machine that's sitting in a junk heap or back room |
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> somewhere. It hasn't been powered up in a long time. I log in and want |
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> to figure out what's in front of me with respect to updates. I type |
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> emerge sync and portage deletes files. to me that's just wrong. |
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Whether you have bought it or not, it is what you have taken home by using |
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Gentoo. This would not be an issue for you without such time between syncs, |
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plain and simple. I don't think expecting users to sync at least once a year |
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is too much to ask for a dynamic distro such as this one. |
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What is the alternative? Have the portage tree grow forever, keeping old |
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ebuilds and profiles that 99 percent of users don't need? Portage would |
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likely be 10GB+ by now if it was never pruned. Seperate it into |
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'emerge --sync' and 'emerge --profile'? Sounds like more work for that 99% of |
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users.... |
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Also, it is not as if all these ebuilds have disappeared. They are all in the |
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CVS 'attic'. Perhaps the profiles are there too. |
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> As I say, I can get around the problem by simply copying absolutely |
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> everything somewhere else to protect it. It just seems to me that's |
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> not as slick as Gentoo really is. (And I think you know I LOVE this |
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> distribution and have no desire to run anything else. My comments are |
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> made ONLY in the hope that one day some developer will see the value |
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> and look into some sort of change that would help with this. It's |
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> happened to me with profiles, kernels, device drivers, lots of stuff. |
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> It doesn't need to be an issue, or so I feel.) |
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Feel free to post your suggestion to -dev, but I don't think you will find a |
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great reception. One thing I have learned in the OSS world is that if a user |
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needs some sort of non-standard configuration they are generally left on |
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their own to create and maintain it. Devs cannot be expected to make |
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everybody happy. |
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Now: I realize this issue is obviously quite important to you, but I say it |
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is 'non-standard' because I have never before heard anyone complain of this |
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issue in 4+ years of using Gentoo. |
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Everything you need to solve the problem has already been mentioned in this |
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thread. Use an overlay, and point 'make.profile' to a profile directory that |
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is outside of PORTDIR. Grab old ebuilds you need from the attic. |
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Again, ask some devs if you like, but I do feel you will be left on your own |
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with this one... |
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> Anyway, enough of this. thanks! |
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> - Mark |
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-d |
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-- |
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darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org |
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"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." |
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- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 |
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