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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:38:49
Message-Id: 4E70F448.8060500@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
2 > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Joost Roeleveld<joost@××××××××.org> wrote:
3 >> On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:33:01 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
4 >>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer<grimlog@×××.de>
5 >> wrote:
6 >>>> If gentoo follows fedora on this mandatory initramfs trail, I'll switch
7 >>>> to FreeBSD completely. My software works on way more systems than just
8 >>>> "Linux".
9 >>> That's of course your prerogative. And, as I said before: "Linux
10 >>> strives to be much more than Unix, and that means do things
11 >>> differently." If you want to do things the same way that it was done
12 >>> in the last 20 years, maybe Linux is not the best of choices.
13 >> I read it before, but to be much more then Unix, Linux should be doing things
14 >> better. Being different is what led to MS Windows'
15 > But that's the thing: we (you and me) don't see the situation the same
16 > way. To me, the proposed changes are for the better.
17
18 You are one of very few that feel this way.
19
20 >
21 >>> I myself think the new technologies are worth to change the way we did
22 >>> things before. But that's just me.
23 >> The new technologies have great merit. But, the implementation of it isn't
24 >> thought through.
25 > In my humble opinion, what you just said is a little pedantic. You can
26 > disagree with the proposed changes, you can argue why you think
27 > another approach could be better. But just saying "the implementation
28 > of it isn't thought through", is a little insulting to the devs. I
29 > think they though about the implementation a lot.
30
31 The dev only thought about himself and the distro he uses. He
32 apparently didn't consider how what he is doing is going to affect
33 others or he would have done something better. People have already
34 explained what should be done so there is a better way to do this
35 without breaking things.
36
37
38 >
39 >>>>> And maybe I shouldn't even mention it, but I don't use OpenRC. I use
40 >>>>> systemd. And it works great on Gentoo.
41 >>>> Well. Linux only. If I wanted a monoculture, I would use MS-Windows or
42 >>>> OSX.
43 >>> Relax man. I mention what I use: I'm not forcing you (or anybody else)
44 >>> to use it. But I repeat (because I said it before) that I care about
45 >>> Linux, and Linux only.
46 >> If you care about Linux, why do you allow it to be broken in such a
47 >> fundamental way?
48 > Again, to me is not "breaking it". To me is "improving it".
49 >
50 > Regards.
51
52 It is breaking it. Why you can't see that is beyond me. It has already
53 been said what is supposed to be required for booting and /usr and
54 possibly /var is not on the list.
55
56 Dale
57
58 :-) :-)

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr Mike Edenfield <kutulu@××××××.org>