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On 20:31 Sat 27 Dec , Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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>>>>> Another reason I |
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>>>>> didn't put Gentoo on the server is because everyone would start |
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>>>>> spamming |
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>>>>> the forums about lag when I emerge -u world while they're getting frags |
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>>>>> in Counter-Strike :P |
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>>>> set PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 in /etc/make.conf |
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>>> I'll just hay "ah, ah, ah" at that one :P OK, I'll also say that it |
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>>> doesn't work. Everything lags even with 19. |
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>> Is that measurable? |
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> On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets |
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> skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core E6600@3.33Ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM. |
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Interesting, i have the niceness set to 19 and i dont feel a thing with |
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regular stuff that you mention; browser is responsive(i keep many tabs |
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open at a time) and other simple things are fine. I am on relatively lower |
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specs: AMD64 X2 2.09Ghz and 2gigs of ram. I hope you are not running some |
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kind of cpu-throttling program (aka cpufrequtils). |
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The point is you dont update gcc/glibc/kdelibs/heavyweights everyday. Thats |
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where the lag should happen(due to disk I/O and not due to todays processors). |
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As for the smaller packages the effect is negligible wrt the benefits gained. |
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It is disappointing that even today so much hype is created about compiling. |
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I mean when i am not emerging the cpu sits idle at (0-3)% , isnt it nice |
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that we use our multi-core beasts.Obviously for those that run on lower specs |
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options and workarounds are available. |
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> With all that being said, I prefer Gentoo of course. I've been through |
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> Debian, Ubuntu, Slackware, Mandriva/Mandrake, CentOS, Fedora and openSUSE |
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> on my desktop PC. I finally settled with Gentoo; it's beats all of 'em. |
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> But it needs more attention to keep it healthy and clean. So I don't use it |
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> for the servers. More free time for me that way :P |
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A properly configured server by its very nature shouldn't need much tinkering, |
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regardless what distro you run on it. The choice narrows down to basically the |
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admins knowhow and the organizations compelling needs. I don't understand why |
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Gentoo should not be easy to maintain as a server. A server has fewer software |
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hence fewer updates(ideally only security fixes-- GLSA?). Gentoo provides |
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magnificent tool eselect (Linux retards should be able to use it!!). So, Gentoo |
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as a server FTW !! |
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Regards, |
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Man Shankar <man.ee.gen(at)gmail.com> |
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