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From: Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go?
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:38:01
Message-Id: 5220AE1F.20601@libertytrek.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go? by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On 2013-08-30 10:28 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > udev/eudev has nothing to do with it. It's the init systems (as in
3 > both systemd and OpenRC) the ones that are pushing/have pushed for
4 > dropping support for it. In Gentoo, the move is being championed by
5 > William Hubs:
6 >
7 > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2946
8 >
9 > He's the OpenRC maintainer. NOBODY who has actually worked on the
10 > problem wants to support a separate /usr without an initramfs, because
11 > it makes no sense.
12
13 Please stop making such false statements.
14
15 It only makes no sense because of *other* decisions being made that want
16 to force files critical to booting to be placed into /usr.
17
18 There is no *philosophical* reason that it 'makes no sense.
19
20 > So it doesn't matter if you use udev, eudev, mdev or even a static
21 > /dev directory; no init system wants to support a separate /usr
22 > without an initramfs.
23
24 Just fyi... the *only* problem that I have with this is that I have an
25 *existing* system that has a separate /usr, and it only has that
26 separate /usr because when I followed the original gentoo installation
27 handbook back in 2003 or so, it actually had a separate /usr in the
28 example directory structure layout, so I thought it was the official
29 gentoo *recommendation* to do it that way.
30
31 If I wasn't in this predicament, I'd just make a mental note to never
32 install /usr to a separate partition and be done with it.
33
34 > And for a good reason: is braindead.
35
36 Again - it is only braindead if you accept the basic premise that it
37 'makes sense' to put files critical to the boot process into /usr.
38
39 Personally, I think it only 'makes sense' to put files critical to the
40 boot process into <gasp!> /boot.

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Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go? Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go? "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
[gentoo-user] Re: where did lvm installation guide go? Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s-dev@×××××××.net>