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"Taiidan@×××.com" <Taiidan@×××.com> writes: |
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> On 12/30/2016 11:43 AM, lee wrote: |
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>> "Taiidan@×××.com" <Taiidan@×××.com> writes: |
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>>> On 12/30/2016 08:39 AM, lee wrote: |
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>>>> thelma@×××××××××××.com writes: |
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>>>>> I'm putting a new system, it will be running mainly, VirtualBox, |
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>>>> If you want a rock solid machine with lots of cores and RAM and very |
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>>>> capable of powering VMs, the HP Z800 is worthwhile to check out. |
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>>> You can build a system with a (new) KGPE-D16, two used 6276 processors |
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>>> and used 64gb ecc ram for only around $500 which will net you a 32 |
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>>> core computer that can run blob free no microcode coreboot that |
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>>> supports max 256GB RDIMM RAM. |
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>> Including an excellent 850W power supply, a good case, SAS RAID |
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>> controller and a graphics card? |
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>> The 6276 is a more power hungry than a Xeon and runs at only 2.3GHz |
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>> (though I don't know how that compares to the Xeon). Power consumption |
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>> is an issue for me because electricity is way too expensive here. |
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>> Asus doesn't seem to say anything about coreboot? |
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>>> There is another coreboot compatible (theoretically, but not tested) |
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>>> QP max 1TB (jesus christ) RDIMM RAM G34 motherboard, so you could have |
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>>> 64 cores for only $20 or so per 16 cores. (plus the $30 for a cpu |
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>>> cooler) |
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>> It's good to have so many options to choose from :) Considering all |
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>> this, is there a good reason to go for an FX-8350? |
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> Ahh good point, I was assuming he already had a case like I did. I |
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It's on the list ... When you add it up, you pay about the same for a |
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Z800 with 64GB, more when you account for your work of putting the parts |
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together. |
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> have a single 6274 plus graphics card with a *quality* 500watt PSU and |
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> it works fine at full load. |
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> 6 cores vs 16 cores and coreboot with zero blobs or microcode, IMO the |
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> power consumption is greatly worth it. |
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Well, the FX-8350 is probably not exactly a power-saving CPU, either, so |
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what would count is the difference. |
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> Asus didn't implement coreboot on the kgpe-d16 (asus sucks), it was |
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Yeah, I say that too ever since I had an Asus board with a fan on it |
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that started making noise after a short time, and it wasn't possible to |
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update the BIOS, either, because that required windoze. I won't buy |
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Asus anymore since then. |
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> done by the firmware heroes at raptor engineering. |
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> 6276 actually runs at 2.6ghz with turbo assuming you have proper |
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> cooling, and 8 cores can turbo to 3.2ghz if the other 8 are in CC6. |
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> If you care about linux you will care about free firmware, if we do |
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> not care one day microsoft will simply flip a switch and shut us out |
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> for good ("secure" boot 2.0 spec does not mandate the option to |
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> disable it) |
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The problem is getting a board with coreboot. I definitely don't want |
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an UEFI board, and so far I got away with not having any, but what |
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choice do you really have? |
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