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On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:29:53 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: |
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> (I've tried correcting indent markers in quoted bits but I've probably got |
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> some of them wrong.) |
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I can figure most of it :) |
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> On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:54:57 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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> > On December 27, 2016 5:39:09 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey |
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> > > >You see how spaced out the folder list is? There's no setting for that |
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> > > |
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> > >in KMail as far as I can see. The Qt Configuration tool has an Interface |
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> > >tab. Under Global Strut you can set minimum width and height. The default |
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> > >is zero, giving Qt free rein to do what it likes, but I could set those |
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> > >to 1 and kmail:4 would tuck all those folder entries up so that they |
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> > >fitted without scrolling. It has no effect on kmail:5 though. |
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> > |
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> > Is the qt config for qt4 or qt5? |
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> It's version 4.8.7, so maybe it's for qt:4, which would explain its not |
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> affecting kmail:5 :) |
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If you know what it changes for qt4, you might be able to do duplicate the |
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changes for qt5. |
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Alternatively, test: |
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% eix qt5ct |
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* x11-misc/qt5ct |
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Available versions: ~0.27-r1 {+systray} |
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Homepage: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qt5ct/ |
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Description: Qt5 configuration tool, similar to qtconfig for Qt4 |
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(Found it by googling for "qtconfig qt5", one of the results mentioned qt5ct) |
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> > You might need to find the settings/tool to apply to qt5. Kmail:4 is qt4 |
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> > based. (I never played with that tool, which package is it? And which |
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> > command do I run?) |
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> It's in the KDE system applications menu. |
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See above :) |
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> [OT] |
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> > Speaking of English. I always wonder which would be a better match for |
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> > someone who uses English mostly to deal with international friends and |
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> > computers. I am Dutch myself, which means it's officially a second |
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> > language for me. (Always wondered about that, as I speak several |
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> > languages and fluency is simply a matter of which I speak regularly). I |
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> > usually throw a dice to decide between US and UK whenever I get asked. |
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> (Do you mean regularly, or frequently? :P ) |
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> Personally, I'd be deeply embarrassed if anyone thought I might be American. |
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> I have even been known to rebuke youngsters (gently) for saying "you're |
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> welcome" as being an Americanism. |
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Is it? I've come across that while living in the UK. |
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> On the other hand, while I was working in Minneapolis 25 years ago, some |
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> people though I was Australian! Not sure which is worse... |
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> [/OT] |
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Well.... were those people who actually ever left Minneapolis? |
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> > > >Nothing to do with KMail, but the display of gkrellm has changed |
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> > > >dramatically. I use its Invisible theme, which hasn't actually been |
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> > > >invisible since the switch from KDE-3 to 4, but it had a plain, |
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> > > >unobtrusive grey scheme and showed what I wanted to see, clearly and |
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> > > >with no drama. |
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> Looks like a bug report is needed against gkrellm. |
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I agree. |
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> > >I've found a lot more KDE-5 meta-packages and installed those, but they |
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> > >haven't helped with this. |
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> > What about plasma-meta? |
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> > I think that pulls in the whole shebang? |
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> I thought so too, but it doesn't. It seems to pull in just the bits you need |
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> to run a plasma desktop; applications are another matter. |
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I have the following meta packages in my world file: |
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kde-apps/kde-apps-meta |
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kde-apps/kde-meta |
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kde-plasma/plasma-meta |
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Not sure if those 3 are all needed. Will be clearing out the desktop later. |
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> > Again, could be related to killing akonadi while indexing. |
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> > Or corruption in the database caused by the segfaults. |
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> > You could try: |
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> > # akonadictl fsck |
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> Good idea. I will if this new incarnation starts acting up again. |
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Mine doesn't yet. Looks ok, but did need to restart kontact once as it wasn't |
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displaying the folder-contents earlier. |
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> > I usually restart akonadi first to ensure I can follow the messages in a |
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> > konsole: |
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> > in konsole 1: |
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> > # akonadictl stop |
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> > # akonadictl status (repeat this till it says stopped) |
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> > # akonadictl start |
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> > > in konsole 2: |
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> > # akonadictl fsck |
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> > Then monitor in konsole 1 to see what it does. It actually reports on it's |
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> > fsck status there with what it finds and fixes. |
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> Yes, I've operated that way a few times, but just using the one Konsole. |
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1 Konsole, multiple tabs... |
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> > Personally, I think akonadi is a nice idea for when people store all their |
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> > email locally. As I use IMAP to store my email, it does a lot of |
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> > duplicate efforts. But with that, I have luckily been spared from the |
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> > duplicate email or dissapearing email issues others have encountered. |
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> My ISP doesn't offer IMAP so I have to use POP. It suits me anyway, having |
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> all my e-mails under my own control. |
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I run my own IMAP server. My laptop, desktop and mobile phone all connect to |
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that. This way I have all my emails available wherever I am. |
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> > >> >I dare say version 16.12.0 of KMail-2 will make a decent platform |
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> > >> >for development, now that it's finally here, but a very great deal of |
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> > >> >work lies ahead. I can see that I'll be doing my fair share of |
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> > >> >shouting too, at it and at the devs. |
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> > >> |
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> > >> I'll try to get my desktop converted this week. And will join in the |
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> > >> bugreporting party. |
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> > >It would be good to have someone to compare notes with. |
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> > > |
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> > >--->8 |
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> > Give me some time to do the installation. Will need to first kill kde4 |
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> > parts on the desktop before doing the upgrade. I run mostly stable. Will |
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> > see how that goes. |
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> OK. In my case I must have had some stray USE flags in the kde:4 system |
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> which were impossible to sort out with kde:5. I ended up ditching the whole |
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> lot and installing a new system, setting make.profile to plasma right at the |
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> outset and only setting USE flags that portage demanded. Took a while. |
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I switched to the plasma-profile when I installed the desktop originally a |
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couple of months ago. |
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I did have some issues with some other applications still depending on older |
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kde and qt versions which prevented portage from fully resolving the |
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dependencies. |
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If anyone tries the same, I can assist in how to find out what needs being |
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removed. Basically, anything causing blockers. |
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> > >> >I think I'll have to go down the pub to drown my sorrows. |
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> > >> |
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> > >> Just don't climb behind the wheel of a car afterwards.... |
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> > >No, it's just a wee stroll. Takes longer to get my shoes on. :-) |
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> > Slippers and warm socks not an option? Saves a lot of time, I would think. |
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> > And the alcohol will make you feel warm enough, including your toes.... |
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> I'm not going walking round the village in my slippers, thanks all the same. |
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> We might have a maritime climate here, but even so... |
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If putting shoes on takes longer then walking to the pub, I'd consider getting |
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footwear that is quicker to put on. |
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Joost |