Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

[Peter Humphrey]

(I've tried correcting indent markers in quoted bits but I've probably got 
some of them wrong.)

On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:54:57 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On December 27, 2016 5:39:09 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey

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> > >You see how spaced out the folder list is? There's no setting for that
> >in KMail as far as I can see. The Qt Configuration tool has an Interface
> >tab. Under Global Strut you can set minimum width and height. The default
> >is zero, giving Qt free rein to do what it likes, but I could set those
> >to 1 and kmail:4 would tuck all those folder entries up so that they
> >fitted without scrolling. It has no effect on kmail:5 though.
>
> Is the qt config for qt4 or qt5?

It's version 4.8.7, so maybe it's for qt:4, which would explain its not 
affecting kmail:5  :)

> You might need to find the settings/tool to apply to qt5. Kmail:4 is qt4
> based. (I never played with that tool, which package is it? And which
> command do I run?)

It's in the KDE system applications menu.

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[OT]
> Speaking of English. I always wonder which would be a better match for
> someone who uses English mostly to deal with international friends and
> computers. I am Dutch myself, which means it's officially a second
> language for me. (Always wondered about that, as I speak several
> languages and fluency is simply a matter of which I speak regularly). I
> usually throw a dice to decide between US and UK whenever I get asked.

(Do you mean regularly, or frequently?  :P )
Personally, I'd be deeply embarrassed if anyone thought I might be American. 
I have even been known to rebuke youngsters (gently) for saying "you're 
welcome" as being an Americanism.

On the other hand, while I was working in Minneapolis 25 years ago, some 
people though I was Australian! Not sure which is worse...
[/OT]

> > >Nothing to do with KMail, but the display of gkrellm has changed
> > >dramatically. I use its Invisible theme, which hasn't actually been
> > >invisible since the switch from KDE-3 to 4, but it had a plain,
> > >unobtrusive grey scheme and showed what I wanted to see, clearly and
> > >with no drama.

Looks like a bug report is needed against gkrellm.

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> >I've found a lot more KDE-5 meta-packages and installed those, but they
> >haven't helped with this.
>
> What about plasma-meta?
> I think that pulls in the whole shebang?

I thought so too, but it doesn't. It seems to pull in just the bits you need 
to run a plasma desktop; applications are another matter.

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> Again, could be related to killing akonadi while indexing.
> Or corruption in the database caused by the segfaults.
> You could try:
> # akonadictl fsck

Good idea. I will if this new incarnation starts acting up again.

> I usually restart akonadi first to ensure I can follow the messages in a
> konsole:
> in konsole 1:
> # akonadictl stop
> # akonadictl status (repeat this till it says stopped)
> # akonadictl start
>
> > in konsole 2:
> # akonadictl fsck
>
> Then monitor in konsole 1 to see what it does. It actually reports on it's
> fsck status there with what it finds and fixes.

Yes, I've operated that way a few times, but just using the one Konsole.

> Personally, I think akonadi is a nice idea for when people store all their
> email locally. As I use IMAP to store my email, it does a lot of
> duplicate efforts. But with that, I have luckily been spared from the
> duplicate email or dissapearing email issues others have encountered.

My ISP doesn't offer IMAP so I have to use POP. It suits me anyway, having 
all my e-mails under my own control.

> >> >I dare say version 16.12.0 of KMail-2 will make a decent platform
> >> >for development, now that it's finally here, but a very great deal of
> >> >work lies ahead. I can see that I'll be doing my fair share of
> >> >shouting too, at it and at the devs.
> >>
> >> I'll try to get my desktop converted this week. And will join in the
> >> bugreporting party.
> >
> >It would be good to have someone to compare notes with.
> >
> >--->8
>
> Give me some time to do the installation. Will need to first kill kde4
> parts on the desktop before doing the upgrade. I run mostly stable. Will
> see how that goes.

OK. In my case I must have had some stray USE flags in the kde:4 system 
which were impossible to sort out with kde:5. I ended up ditching the whole 
lot and installing a new system, setting make.profile to plasma right at the 
outset and only setting USE flags that portage demanded. Took a while.

> >> >I think I'll have to go down the pub to drown my sorrows.
> >>
> >> Just don't climb behind the wheel of a car afterwards....
> >
> >No, it's just a wee stroll. Takes longer to get my shoes on.   :-)
>
> Slippers and warm socks not an option? Saves a lot of time, I would think.
> And the alcohol will make you feel warm enough, including your toes....

I'm not going walking round the village in my slippers, thanks all the same. 
We might have a maritime climate here, but even so...

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Regards,
Peter