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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:38:48
Message-Id: 55E1E003.90004@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1 by Michel Catudal
1 On 29/08/2015 18:17, Michel Catudal wrote:
2 > Le 2015-08-28 07:24, Tom H a écrit :
3 >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Grant Edwards
4 >> <grant.b.edwards@×××××.com> wrote:
5 >>> On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o> wrote:
6 >>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal
7 >>>> <mcatudal@×××××××.net> wrote:
8 >>>>> I've had serious problems in the past getting to to install on a
9 >>>>> partition
10 >>>>> and gave up. Is that bug fixed? It insists on installing on the MBR
11 >>>>> which is
12 >>>>> unacceptable.
13 >>>> It's not a bug, and it won't be "fixed". Installing on a partition is
14 >>>> simply not supported.
15 >>> So, grub2 refuses to share power and cooperate with another bootloader.
16 >>> Bill Gates would be pround.
17 >>>
18 >>> For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a
19 >>> pretty big reason to stick with grub-legacy.
20 >> You can boot multiple installations via grub2 with os-prober.
21 >>
22 >
23 > You have to be able to boot the os that grub is installed on to be able
24 > to fix booting issues. If the OS that has control of grub2 is wacked you
25 > are screwed.
26 > At least with a bootloader that independant of any operating system and
27 > with a nice graphic interface it is a piece of cake to fix things since
28 > you do not ever lose your bootloader unless you let grub write on the
29 > MBR or on your bootloader partition.
30 >
31 > I know that you can boot on grub if it is not wiped but the interface is
32 > not friendly at all and if you do not remember the syntax you are
33 > screwed. Until grub becomes a nice real bootloader with a friendly user
34 > interface it cannot be allowed to be the sole controller of booting.
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38 Michel PLEASE, get it now already, and stop cluttering up the list with
39 your spew.
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41 DON'T LIKE GRUB? DON'T FUCKING USE IT.
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43 Meanwhile the grub devs will continue to write the code they want to
44 write. You want them to do what you want? Pay them a salary, at market
45 rates.
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50 Alan McKinnon
51 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com