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On 5/27/06, Alexander Skwar <listen@×××××××××××××××.name> wrote: |
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> >>>if he does not have glib? |
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> >>Then he installs it. |
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> > so, he should install something he does not need and 'test' it, to satisfy |
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> > your needs? |
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> Not MY needs, no. But to be able to say that all is fine, when it has been |
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> posted here, that glib is one of the culprits. |
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No, this wasn't my point at all. I am *not* arguing that "all is |
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fine". (However I still don't see how you figure that a bug report |
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that shows the exact same problem occurring with both gcc 3.4.6 and |
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4.1.1 indicates a problem with 4.1.1) |
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My point is that it is wrong to flame the devs about a problem with a |
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~arch package. Regardless of any documentation, GWN entries, or |
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anything else anybody wrote, the very fact that gcc 4.1 is in ~arch |
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means it needed wider testing. Here is what the handbook says about |
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the testing branch: |
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<quote> (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=3) |
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The testing branch is exactly what it says - Testing. If a package is |
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in testing, it means that the developers feel that it is functional |
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but has not been thoroughly tested. You could very well be the first |
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to discover a bug in the package in which case you could file a |
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bugreport to let the developers know about it. |
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Beware though, you might notice stability issues, imperfect package |
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handling (for instance wrong/missing dependencies), too frequent |
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updates (resulting in lots of building) or broken packages. |
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</quote> |
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You complained about a "complete lack of QA", and it seemed quite |
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obvious you were not referring to just the gcc upgrade. Well guess |
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what...~arch users _are_ the QA department! If you are not willing to |
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try out things that the developers *think* will work, without flaming |
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them when you encounter a problem that slipped by, you have no |
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business running ~arch. |
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This whole topic of "this-or-that worked fine for me" was a mistake on |
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my part. I was trying to make another point which was that the |
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statement claiming "the upgrade should be incredibly easy..." could |
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have been perfectly reasonable to make. Unfortunately it has been |
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more of a distraction than anything else. |
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-Richard |
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