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From: Bob Young <BYoung@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: RE: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift -slaveryware)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:42:44
Message-Id: FAEEIJPAOFEMBBLKPMJEIELKHKAA.BYoung@NuCORETech.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift -slaveryware) by Richard Fish
1 > -----Original Message-----
2 > From: richard.j.fish@×××××.com [mailto:richard.j.fish@×××××.com]On
3 > Behalf Of Richard Fish
4 > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:07 PM
5 > To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
6 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift
7 > -slaveryware)
8 >
9 >
10 > On 9/29/06, Bob Young <BYoung@××××××××××.com> wrote:
11
12 > > I'm not saying he doesn't have the freedom to use them, I'm suggesting
13 that
14 > > they are inaccurate and their connotations don't reflect the true
15 > > relationship between vendors and users, and for that reason their use
16 should
17 > > be reconsidered.
18 >
19 > But they *do* accurately reflect the relationship between vendors and
20 > users from Duncan's viewpoint. Your viewpoint is obviously different,
21 > but doesn't mean yours is the only "true" one.
22
23 Oh please, spare me the relative truth crap. You can argue all you want that
24 it's true from Duncan's perspective because that's the way it *feels* to
25 him. In the end that's just feel good rationalization and total bullshit. It
26 conveniently avoids the confrontational point, namely that there isn't any
27 hard concrete logic and reason to support or justify the usage of words such
28 as slaveryware and freedomware.
29
30 > > When a user (who can't read/write source code) has an OSS app or utility
31 > > break frequently, should they feel enslaved?
32 >
33 > No. They should feel empowered to learn about programming and help
34 > fix it, or entice others to do so.
35
36 That's obviously not what currently happens for the vast majority of people
37 using OSS, why is that, what's wrong?
38
39 Secondly, if you think thats going to change anytime soon, I'd love to know
40 what evidence supports such a belief.
41
42 --
43 Regards
44 Bob Young
45
46
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift -slaveryware) Richard Fish <bigfish@××××××××××.org>