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On 9/29/06, Bob Young <BYoung@××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> > But they *do* accurately reflect the relationship between vendors and |
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> > users from Duncan's viewpoint. Your viewpoint is obviously different, |
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> > but doesn't mean yours is the only "true" one. |
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> Oh please, spare me the relative truth crap. You can argue all you want that |
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> it's true from Duncan's perspective because that's the way it *feels* to |
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> him. In the end that's just feel good rationalization and total bullshit. |
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Ok, so now you are saying that Duncan's opinion is wrong. You don't |
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respect Duncan's opinion, but you expect us to respect yours? I call |
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hypocrite. |
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> conveniently avoids the confrontational point, namely that there isn't any |
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> hard concrete logic and reason to support or justify the usage of words such |
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> as slaveryware and freedomware. |
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Hard concrete logic: *everybody* has the right to modify and |
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distribute open source software. How is that *not* freedom? |
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BTW, it doesn't matter to me how many people actually exercise that |
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right. I choose not to own a gun...that doesn't at all effect my |
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freedom to do so if I choose. |
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> > No. They should feel empowered to learn about programming and help |
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> > fix it, or entice others to do so. |
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> That's obviously not what currently happens for the vast majority of people |
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> using OSS, why is that, what's wrong? |
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Are you saying that the "vast majority" of users do _nothing_ when |
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they run into a problem with OSS? That they do not post to a mail |
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list, or forum, or IRC, or file a bug report? All of those activities |
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fall under the "entice others to do so" category IMO, and if that is |
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what you are claiming, I want to see your poll numbers, because it is |
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not at all "obvious" to me. |
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Oh, wait, I can hear you now: "but that is no different than with |
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closed source". You already know the counter argument: with closed |
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source, the only people who can provide the patch are those who own |
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the source. With open source, anybody can produce and send a patch to |
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the user. So with open source, even if the user doesn't exercise |
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their freedom directly, they can (and do) ask others to exercise that |
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freedom on their behalf. |
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-Richard |
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