Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Wil Reichert <wil.reichert@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox??
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:45:44
Message-Id: 7a329d910801261345m4d33e87ke9fb9ed556ac77d@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java in Firefox?? by Beso
1 Theres currently work on a 64-bit plugin. Add the java-gcj-overlay and
2 emerge dev-java/gcj-jdk with the nsplugin use flag. Then 'eselect
3 java-nsplugin list' shows:
4
5 Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
6 Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
7 [1] gcj-jdk-4.3 current
8
9 and in firefox about:plugins show
10
11 GCJ Web Browser Plugin 0.96-pre
12 File name: libgcjwebplugin.so The GCJ Web Browser Plugin executes Java
13 applets.Quite alpha & crashes often, but definitely shows promise.
14
15 Wil
16
17 On Jan 26, 2008 12:31 PM, Beso <givemesugarr@×××××.com> wrote:
18
19 > well, java plugin is only build on 32bit. to have it work in firefox
20 > there's only one way: 32bit firefox.
21 > for the other extensions (that on 64bit work) to work with 32bit you need
22 > to build them for 32bit with the correct flag set into portage, on multilib
23 > systems, as yours, portage can build 32bit binaries natively. all you have
24 > to do is pass to portage the right flag to do so and to unmask the 32bit
25 > package. for how to do this search in the gentoo documentation.
26 > the other way to use java on 64bit is konqueror on kde (i don't know it
27 > nautilus does this too): konqueror would use the 64bit javavm, which was
28 > build also on 64bit, and can use flash via nspluginwrapper and
29 > netscape-flash. in this way you'd have a native 64bit web client, with flash
30 > plugin, also only 32bit version, enabled via emulation with nspluginwrapper.
31 > for having konqueror work set it recognization to firefox or iexplore in the
32 > preferences, or you might miss some sites' features that required firefox or
33 > iexploder.
34 > for nautilus on gnome you might try to see if it supports 64bit java and
35 > nspluginwrapper too.
36 > these are the actual choices for java and flash on 64bit platoforms. i
37 > really hope that firefox 3 would come out with support for javavm for linux
38 > and not with only that crappy javaplugin one.
39 >
40 > 2008/1/26, Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>:
41 >
42 > > On Jan 26, 2008 11:33 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@×××××××.net>
43 > > wrote:
44 > > > Mark Knecht wrote:
45 > > > > On Jan 26, 2008 11:05 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@×××××××.net>
46 > > wrote:
47 > > > >
48 > > > > <SNIP>
49 > > > >
50 > > > > This is likely the culprit:
51 > > > >
52 > > > > lightning ~ # eix nspluginwrapper
53 > > > > [I] net-www/nspluginwrapper
54 > > > > Available versions: 0.9.91.4 ~0.9.91.5 ~0.9.91.5-r1
55 > > > > Installed versions: 0.9.91.4(12:21:31 PM 11/12/2007)
56 > > > > Homepage:
57 > > http://www.gibix.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/
58 > > > > Description: Netscape Plugin Wrapper - Load 32bit
59 > > plugins
60 > > > > on 64bit browser
61 > > > >
62 > > > > lightning ~ # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
63 > > > >
64 > > > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
65 > > > >
66 > > > > Calculating dependencies... done!
67 > > > > [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.4 0 kB
68 > > > >
69 > > > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
70 > > > > lightning ~ #
71 > > >
72 > > > # emerge -pv nspluginwrapper
73 > > >
74 > > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
75 > > >
76 > > > Calculating dependencies... done!
77 > > > [ebuild R ] net-www/nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5-r1 0 kB
78 > > >
79 > > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
80 > > > DreamScape ~ #
81 > > >
82 > > > Well ... I uninstalled mozilla-firefox and installed
83 > > > mozilla-firefox-bin. It said, "NB -- you are installing a 32-bit
84 > > > Firefox". The good news is that it works with Java and the R search
85 > > > engine! The bad news is that it doesn't have all the *other* plugins
86 > > > that the 64-bit compiled Firefox did. Do I need to re-emerge them?
87 > > Will
88 > > > revdep-rebuild clean this up?
89 > >
90 > > This is the age old problem, as far as I know, with 64-bit Linux and a
91 > > world full of 32-bit multimedia. I think this wiki will surely
92 > > explain it better than I ever could. Hopefully the basic info you need
93 > > is there:
94 > >
95 > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_java_on_amd64
96 > >
97 > > I will say that my experience is that so far no single browser/plugin
98 > > combination works as well for all web media types as our 32-bit
99 > > brethren have, and that doesn't work as well as Windows. There are
100 > > issues with Java, Flash support, mplayer and other plugins for
101 > > streaming file types, so the answer is no one answer seems to be right
102 > > for everyone. My setup work *ok* for me, not well. I'm not happy with
103 > > it but I'm not motivated enough to change things. I trade stocks on a
104 > > Windows laptop so I use that machine for the numerous things I cannot
105 > > do on Linux, 32-bit or 64-bit.
106 > >
107 > > Hope this helps,
108 > > Mark
109 > > --
110 > > gentoo-amd64@l.g.o mailing list
111 > >
112 > >
113 >
114 >
115 > --
116 > dott. ing. beso

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