Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Bob Young <BYoung@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: RE: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift - slaveryware)
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:12:08
Message-Id: FAEEIJPAOFEMBBLKPMJEEELDHKAA.BYoung@NuCORETech.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift - slaveryware) by felix@crowfix.com
1 > -----Original Message-----
2 > From: felix@×××××××.com [mailto:felix@×××××××.com]
3 > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:25 AM
4 > To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
5 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift -
6 > slaveryware)
7 >
8 >
9 > With Linux, even
10 > if I can't do it, there are hundreds of thousands of people who could,
11 > and it would only take a few bucks or a good friend to do it. It is
12 > not only possible, easily, but also there is a lot of choice on how to
13 > do it. That is the essence of freedom.
14
15 That's a very shallow definition of the "essence of freedom," from the
16 perspective of most end users, your scenario doesn't really change anything.
17 >From the end users perspective s/he is still dependent on someone else to
18 make the changes. I wouldn't say having a choice of who to be dependent upon
19 actually qualifies as "freedom."
20
21 > It absolutely is just like a car, or a house, or anything else. If my
22 > house could only be modified by the original builder, it would never
23 > be modified -- I'd never even get a picture hung for want of being
24 > able to put a nail in a stud. Now maybe I can't add a drawbridge to
25 > my house myself, I can't do the welding or design, but my friend
26 > could, and did.
27
28 Analogies suck, software isn't a car, or a house, or anything else, it's
29 software. If you can't make you're point without analogies, maybe you
30 haven't thought it through clearly enough.
31
32 >
33 > There is a HUGE difference between slaveryware and freedomware.
34
35 No there's not, they are just hyperbolic words that have little actual
36 meaning behind them, at least none that can be supported with concrete
37 reason and logic.
38
39 > A
40 > vital essential difference. It is why I run Linux myself.
41
42 I run Linux also, why else would I be subscribed to this list, I just don't
43 blindly accept everything that R. Stallman, or the FSF, or anyone else says.
44 I consider the facts, and look at the reality of the situation, and decide
45 for myself what opinion to take.
46
47 --
48 Regards
49 Bob Young
50
51
52 --
53 gentoo-amd64@g.o mailing list

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift - slaveryware) felix@×××××××.com
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift - slaveryware) Richard Fish <bigfish@××××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift - slaveryware) "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <bss03@××××××××××.net>
RE: [gentoo-amd64] Re: How To Play WMV (thread drift - slaveryware) Andrei Slavoiu <ansla80@×××××.com>