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On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 11:25:30 +0200 |
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Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o> wrote: |
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Okay, I'm short of temper today, so I'll try to not come across as |
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wanting to tear you apart. *grins* |
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> Well, we now have ACL support. You can easilly do this with acl in a |
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> straightforward way. We might want to make a manual describing how to |
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> do it. |
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Oops. guess that we don't have it supported then. We have the ability |
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to support it, however, I'm of the mind that a procedure that -isn't- |
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documented as avaiable for end-users isn't supported. Thats why we have |
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documentation. |
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> > Currently I'm using chmod 1777 /media/music, and run a script to |
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> > regularly set the permissions below it as this: |
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> > chgrp -R audio |
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> > chmod g+rw (for files) |
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> > chmod g+rxw (for directories) |
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> Acl's can set default permissions so your script shouldn't be needed |
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> anymore |
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> (but you might want to run it once in a while to ensure that). |
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Yep, Thats good if they can, and thats a good step to supporting |
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something like this. |
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> > however, this isn't really "optimal", but it works, and allows all |
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> > users to actually share the music. The whole idea is that the |
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> > directory is common storage, the same goes for other media. Things |
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> > that are private go into ~ anyhow. |
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> ACL's are great. |
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*Cough* |
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> > the main argument for it is that I/we can export /media/music over |
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> > samba/nfs for other people, it separates user-data from "global |
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> > commune" |
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> > data (at least where I live its perfectly ok to share music like |
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> > this. |
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> > *waves to the RIAA* ) |
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> And you know what? Samba supports ACL's too. |
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Have I ever even refuted ACL's? I didn't bring them up since they |
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aren't documented as a possibility. Neither are group rights, Merlin, |
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or any of the other rights based permission-sets avaiable for unix. I |
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didn't bring up clustered stores either, even if those can, |
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technically, be used. |
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Neither did I bring up things like R/W VFAT mounts, which would -also- |
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solve the problem of having a shared space for files... Simply by not |
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having rights management :-) |
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Frankly, my point wasn't about ACL, the point of wether ACL was great or |
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less good than the small rocks stuck in the soles of my boots, or for |
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that matter if we should simply discard all rights management or not. |
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The question I posed, along with a somewhat make-shift solution, was |
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that we ought to have such a thing documented as avaiable. (yes, that |
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means supported ;) |
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I've seen solutions based on WebDAV + mdns to discover it, by indexing |
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the local Music dir in users homedirs shared with apache to the other |
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users (rendezvous / zeroconf style) But, this again, isn't something |
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we support, nor would I really advocate it, as it isn't optimal in any |
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sense. |
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Sharp rant out. |
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//Spider |
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Tortured users / Laughing in pain |
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See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. |
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