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From: Jason Mobarak <jmob@×××.edu>
To: Gentoo-Dev List <gentoo-dev@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming?
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:13:02
Message-Id: 20031118161047.GA30056@unm.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming? by Bill Kenworthy
1 Yeah... with this rational the g- naming scheme sounds like a good idea. I've
2 been in several situations where I'm definitely not wanting to try and remember
3 which tool could save my butt, it'd be nice to type g-<tab> and get a listing of
4 all the Gentoo specific tools offered. Perhaps combined with update-* and
5 config-* this could be really useful.
6
7 -- Jason Mobarak
8
9 On 09:31 Tue 18 Nov , Bill Kenworthy wrote:
10 > The reason for using "g-" was so typing "g-<tab>" will get ALL gentoo
11 > utilities. Otherwise the advantage of being consistent and hierarchal
12 > is largely lost (you do need a (hopefully) short "top of tree"
13 > identifier for the hierarchy). You will also need to allow for other
14 > configuration tools such as g-cpan.pl which is a gentoo utility, but is
15 > really perl module installer similar to emerge.
16 >
17 > Another example is the gentoolkit utilities like revdep-rebuild -
18 > there's lots of messages telling people that this tool is available, but
19 > no other way to tell its there if you are in the middle of a disaster
20 > and trying to figure out what to do.
21 >
22 > Lastly, when I was using mandrake, they were prefixing all their
23 > utilities with "drak" which made finding the tools *SO* easy. This is
24 > not about copying what they do, but being smarter about what we do.
25 >
26 > BillK
27 >
28 > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:13, Jason Mobarak wrote:
29 > > Hi --
30 > >
31 > > I vote config-* and update-* -- the other names seem a little convoluted if the
32 > > intent is to make a clear and concise tool naming scheme.
33 > >
34 > > -- Jason A Mobarak (aka Aether on Freenode)
35 > >
36 > > On 00:26 Tue 18 Nov , Peter Ruskin wrote:
37 > > > On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 00:11, Markus Nigbur wrote:
38 > > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:18:42 +0800
39 > > > >
40 > > > > William Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au> wrote:
41 > > > > > I dont see a problem with branding in this case (other than
42 > > > > > gentoo-* sounding a bit ... odd!)
43 > > > > >
44 > > > > > how many other tools such as g-cpan.pl exist that few know about:
45 > > > > > is there a consolidated list of these tools and what they do? If
46 > > > > > not, some kind of consistent, hierarchal naming scheme will be a
47 > > > > > godsend!
48 > > > > >
49 > > > > > So I am suggesting
50 > > > > > g-update-etc, g-update-opengl
51 > > > > > g-install-cpan, g-install-cran
52 > > > > > g-config-distcc, g-config-java
53 > > > > > and so on
54 > > > > >
55 > > > > > BillK
56 > > > >
57 > > > > Well, the whole idea is good, but those names are really considerable
58 > > > > stupid-looking :(
59 > > > > But apparently i can't think of anything better.
60 > > > >
61 > > > > -- Markus
62 > > >
63 > > > I think the first idea was the best: config-*
64 > > >
65 > > > Peter
66 > > > --
67 > > > ======================================================================
68 > > > Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r3,
69 > > > 2.4.23_pre8-gss)
70 > > > i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
71 > > > ======================================================================
72 > > >
73 > > >
74 > > > --
75 > > > gentoo-dev@g.o mailing list
76 > >
77 > >
78 > > --
79 > > gentoo-dev@g.o mailing list
80 >
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Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming? Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@g.o>