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From: Bill Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au>
To: Jason Mobarak <aether@g.o>
Cc: Gentoo-Dev List <gentoo-dev@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming?
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:33:42
Message-Id: 1069119114.6811.39.camel@cbbcsc204a.murdoch.edu.au
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming? by Jason Mobarak
1 The reason for using "g-" was so typing "g-<tab>" will get ALL gentoo
2 utilities. Otherwise the advantage of being consistent and hierarchal
3 is largely lost (you do need a (hopefully) short "top of tree"
4 identifier for the hierarchy). You will also need to allow for other
5 configuration tools such as g-cpan.pl which is a gentoo utility, but is
6 really perl module installer similar to emerge.
7
8 Another example is the gentoolkit utilities like revdep-rebuild -
9 there's lots of messages telling people that this tool is available, but
10 no other way to tell its there if you are in the middle of a disaster
11 and trying to figure out what to do.
12
13 Lastly, when I was using mandrake, they were prefixing all their
14 utilities with "drak" which made finding the tools *SO* easy. This is
15 not about copying what they do, but being smarter about what we do.
16
17 BillK
18
19 On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:13, Jason Mobarak wrote:
20 > Hi --
21 >
22 > I vote config-* and update-* -- the other names seem a little convoluted if the
23 > intent is to make a clear and concise tool naming scheme.
24 >
25 > -- Jason A Mobarak (aka Aether on Freenode)
26 >
27 > On 00:26 Tue 18 Nov , Peter Ruskin wrote:
28 > > On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 00:11, Markus Nigbur wrote:
29 > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:18:42 +0800
30 > > >
31 > > > William Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au> wrote:
32 > > > > I dont see a problem with branding in this case (other than
33 > > > > gentoo-* sounding a bit ... odd!)
34 > > > >
35 > > > > how many other tools such as g-cpan.pl exist that few know about:
36 > > > > is there a consolidated list of these tools and what they do? If
37 > > > > not, some kind of consistent, hierarchal naming scheme will be a
38 > > > > godsend!
39 > > > >
40 > > > > So I am suggesting
41 > > > > g-update-etc, g-update-opengl
42 > > > > g-install-cpan, g-install-cran
43 > > > > g-config-distcc, g-config-java
44 > > > > and so on
45 > > > >
46 > > > > BillK
47 > > >
48 > > > Well, the whole idea is good, but those names are really considerable
49 > > > stupid-looking :(
50 > > > But apparently i can't think of anything better.
51 > > >
52 > > > -- Markus
53 > >
54 > > I think the first idea was the best: config-*
55 > >
56 > > Peter
57 > > --
58 > > ======================================================================
59 > > Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r3,
60 > > 2.4.23_pre8-gss)
61 > > i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
62 > > ======================================================================
63 > >
64 > >
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66 > > gentoo-dev@g.o mailing list
67 >
68 >
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming? Andrew Gaffney <agaffney@×××××××××××××××××××.net>
Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming? Jason Mobarak <jmob@×××.edu>
Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming? Karl Trygve Kalleberg <karltk@g.o>