Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

[Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina]

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On 08/21/2013 05:13 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:32:35 +0400
> Sergey Popov <pinkbyte@g.o> wrote:
>
>> 21.08.2013 12:13, Tom Wijsman пишет:
>>> Recruiting shows to be a hard task; so, the suggestions I am doing
>>> are assuming that that doesn't work out. In which case, I wonder
>>> what "by some other ways" you would think of...
>>
>> Dropping some keywords to unstable on minor arches.
>
> If we grow (like you said below), then doing less seems like a decision
> that we shouldn't take; it is rather about "doing it different" to use
> our resources in a better way. Crowd sourcing users is an option here...
>
>> And about recruiting, it is the only way we can keep moving with
>> getting distro, which makes bigger and bigger all the time.
>
> Yes, but apart from recruiting you can make the resources used better;
> if the current way of using our resources isn't sufficient, we can
> improve that as well. Improving both is going to make the difference.
>
>> I would have joined recruiters unless i knew how difficult job they
>> are doing.
>
> Yes, I am interested in both mentoring and recruiting and I need to
> contact them again; but I do not really intend to point at "recruiters"
> here or how hard that is, what I intend to point at with recruiting is
> finding those users that are willing to learn to write better ebuilds
> and are willing to become a Gentoo Developer. They are hard to find;
> and in order for them to be found, a mentor has to find them somewhere.
>
> Came across three types of people already trying to find a mentee:
>
> 1. The first one doesn't want to go through the amount of time it takes;
>    this depends a bit on the queue, but it can take months.
>
> 2. The second one's interest to become a Gentoo Developer depends from
>    time to time; so, tries to start over and over to become one.
>
> 3. The third one writes a lot of ebuilds (and has an overlay that
>    looks like a gold mine), but there is a language barrier that keeps
>    the user from contributing; so, we take things slowly instead...
>
> 4. The fourth one leaves a message on IRC and quits before you return.
>
> 5. ...
I know we are a little OT here but the fifth type of recruit is someone
who is very excited, very dedicated, and completely unable to find a
mentor.  That is where I was for a long time, no one seemed to have the
time to mentor me.  Personally I think that is a big issue in the growth
of gentoo, if we all take a little time out to be mentors there will be
more gentoo devs and we will get more done.

- -ZC
>
> So, recruiting in the terms of "finding recruits" appears to be hard.
>

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