Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:58:07
Message-Id: AANLkTi=vjpVeDakazhnOaxs06TGwG3pQL80v_xETQzEX@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations by Fabian Groffen
1 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o> wrote:
2 > On 08-02-2011 18:46:32 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
3 >> > Other than monitoring bugzilla, how does a Gentoo user even know that they
4 >> > have a package pending a security update?  It seems like glsa's lag
5 >> > stabilization by a considerable timeframe.
6 >>
7 >> Yep. GLSA is something that seems to happen roughly one year after no affected package is in tree anymore.
8 >
9 > Well, it's not too bad lately:
10 > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-announce/
11
12 So I'll agree that it is better now in the sense that we're actually
13 publishing them at all.
14
15 However, it still seems non-ideal. Take this bug for example:
16 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351920
17
18 amd64/x86 were stable weeks ago, but the GLSA still isn't published
19 because we're waiting on one arch. That means that anybody who does
20 updates once a quarter or whatever except for security updates will be
21 vulnerable, because they don't know they still have a vulnerability.
22
23 Even after the last arch is updated it often takes a little time to
24 get the GLSA published.
25
26 About the only thing glsa-checking tools do for me is bug me about
27 having libpng-1.2.44 installed (bug 340261 - most likely glsa is
28 incorrect). I almost never catch vulnerabilities on my live system
29 that way since even if I'm slow I get the updates installed before the
30 glsa comes out anyway. However, I do get noise sometimes.
31
32 Perhaps we should target having glsas published within a certain
33 amount of time after a vulnerability is disclosed, whether corrected
34 or not. We could re-publish a final notice once all is well. We
35 really shouldn't consider users safe from a security vulnerability
36 until the vulnerability is patched in the tree AND the notice to
37 update has been sent out.
38
39 Rich

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