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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Cc: dberkholz@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-02-25
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:39:12
Message-Id: 20140221093841.7ba0ce23@pomiot.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-02-25 by Donnie Berkholz
1 Dnia 2014-02-20, o godz. 21:47:46
2 Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o> napisał(a):
3
4 > On 01:14 Fri 21 Feb , Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
5 > > Andreas K. Huettel schrieb:
6 > >
7 > > > Please respond to this message with agenda items. Do not hesitate to
8 > > > repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously suggested
9 > > > one (since the last meeting).
10 > > >
11 > > > We will send out the agenda one week before the meeting date, i.e.
12 > > > 2014-02-18.
13 > >
14 > > If that is still possible, I would like to add one more item related to the
15 > > gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flags to the agenda. Namely, whether Council gives QA the
16 > > powers to enact such a rule.
17 > >
18 > > In my opinion, it is not necessary for QA to have such powers (and
19 > > therefore better if they don't have it). QA can already act per GLEP 48 if
20 > > there is an immediate serious problem for users. And when there is not an
21 > > immediate serious problem, any such rule can be proposed by QA to council
22 > > for decision, especially if the topic is as controversial as the gtk USE
23 > > flag issue.
24 >
25 > Funny how every time a controversial decision gets made, somebody
26 > inevitably tries to undermine the authority of the group making the
27 > decision.
28
29 Well, I think one issue here is that QA undermined the authority of
30 GTK+ maintainer here, and applied another policy behind their backs. So
31 we have two conflicting policies now, one from people who maintain GTK+
32 and a lot of packages using it, and the other from a team of people who
33 just had a meeting and decided otherwise.
34
35 > In my understanding, the issue you want to address is whether the QA
36 > team has authority over tree policy.
37
38 Even more general, whether QA is supposed to ignore people and just
39 tell them what to do instead of trying to reach an agreement over
40 having a single policy.
41
42 --
43 Best regards,
44 Michał Górny

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