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Perhaps this is simply just a case of accepting there's 2 schools of |
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though on how to keep a system upto date. If this is the case, Gentoo |
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certainly doesn't' lend itself well to the school I attend, and clearly |
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I'm not the only person who's there. |
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Alex Efros wrote: |
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> very rare broke anything, so "constant" in this case doesn't result in |
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> so many troubles as it sounds. |
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> in long term, :( while "constant updating" solve these issues without |
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> introducing too many new problems. |
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Twice you've suggested there are problems, and it's ok because there |
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haven't been many. This really isn't the case. I can't afford to |
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upgrade 10's of machines every week and test them all (mostly they do |
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different things obviously). |
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> Hmm... Again, x86 is stable enough to avoid such retesting on each update. |
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> I agree it's nice idea to retest everything, but it's just impossible - |
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No, it's not. On a 6/12 month cycle (or like ubuntu for example, I |
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*think* it's 18) you get plenty of time to setup your stuff on some test |
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systems and test them out properly. Perhaps giving them a week or two's |
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worth of stress testing. |
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> If some deeper problems arise in this app just because of database update |
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> from 4.3 to 4.3.1 then it's probably because of bug in your app and it's |
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> better to fix it NOW. |
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I'm sorry, but that is just crazy talk ;) |
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You clearly don't deal with PHP, where a point release can break a LOT |
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of things, some things you might not notice by loading 2 or 3 pages from |
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a website. |
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> Probably this way isn't acceptable for you - I'm mostly administrate |
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> servers dedicated for few complex apps, and it's ease to quickly check |
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> them all after update. |
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Can I ask how many? Perhaps this is just that you've not hit the point |
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where it's just a PITA yet. |
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I used to have no problem running 5 or 6 machines, but now it's just a |
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nightmare. |
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> Maybe 'Debian stable' is right choice for ppl who vote for 'stable |
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> portage tree' - it has only very old, really stable packages and only |
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> critical updates (I doesn't use Debian myself, so maybe I'm wrong about it). |
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Or, some might suggest the answer for those that want a 'stable portage |
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tree' is to provide... wait for it... it's a radical suggestion... a |
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stable portage tree? :) |
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Yours, occasionally sarcastically and no disrespect meant - |
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Ian |
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Ian P. Christian ~ http://pookey.co.uk |
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