Gentoo Archives: gentoo-soc

From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o>
To: gentoo-soc@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-soc] (draft) final report for OpenRC soc project 2012
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:07:04
Message-Id: 503B5008.6000205@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-soc] (draft) final report for OpenRC soc project 2012 by Luca Barbato
1 On 08/22/12 15:35, Luca Barbato wrote:
2 > On 8/22/12 4:04 AM, heroxbd@×××××.com wrote:
3 >> Dear Luca,
4 >>
5 >> Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o> writes:
6 >>
7 >>> On 8/21/12 4:07 PM, heroxbd@×××××.com wrote:
8 >>>> For monitoring against OOM http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Monit
9 >>>
10 >>> So monit could be integrated in openrc easily ?
11 >>
12 >> In the way of runit, yes.
13 >>
14 >>>> cron/at is too general to document, there is one at
15 >>>>
16 >>>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml
17 >>>
18 >>> Agreed.
19 >>
20 >> :)
21 >>
22 >>>> upstart is designed to replace cron
23 >>>>
24 >>>> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/ReplaceCron
25 >>>>
26 >>>> systemd recommends to replace cron
27 >>>>
28 >>>> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Optimizations
29 >>>>
30 >>>> while OpenRC just work with it. For some fancy new feature to be
31 >>>> used on
32 >>>> non-servers, like "run every 5 minutes after start up", fcron can be
33 >>>> used.
34 >>>
35 >>> Not sure exactly what should we add here.
36 >>
37 >> The feature of cron-like feature in systemd is limited, while in upstart
38 >> they just replace cron for "cleanness" and integration. I don't think
39 >> there is a special task OpenRC/cron can't do.
40 >>
41 >>>> A stub page is below. Still thinking of how to present it. May be
42 >>>> we can
43 >>>> just load it with examples which covers all the cases upstart being
44 >>>> proud of.
45 >>>>
46 >>>> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC/Event_Driven
47 >>>
48 >>> Yes, might be a good approach.
49 >>
50 >> New examples welcome ;) How would gentoo deal with udev is still
51 >> unclear, while I think we can document the present udev features. udev
52 >> merge with systemd is not a big threat, is it?
53 >
54 > Replacing udev-systemd with udev is probably yet another huge project,
55 > hopefully somebody would help.
56 We already have patches to fix things thanks to Polynomial-C aka. Lars
57 Wendler. See:
58 http://dev.gentoo.org/~polynomial-c/udev/
59
60 Now we only need to motivate our maintainers to use the openrc useflag
61 to fix udev properly.
62 >
63 > meanwhile we have some people using mdev to their satisfaction.
64 >
65 > lu
66 >

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