Gentoo Archives: www-redesign

From: Aaron Shi <aaron@××××××××.com>
To: www-redesign@l.g.o
Subject: RE: [www-redesign] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:22:41
Message-Id: 002601c5ee8e$9d87da20$6402a8c0@vega
In Reply to: Re: [www-redesign] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org by "Christopher Bergström"
1 First of all, kudos to Curtis and team. This is definitely a step up from
2 last time I checked. While I don't always agree with what's done, I do very
3 much appreciate and respect all the effort that's put in.
4
5 Here goes the comments... I'm just going to add to the discussion rather
6 than starting from the beginning.
7
8 > Usability and navigation needs work. Think in terms of end user..
9 > Someone may not land on the home page.. At which point he
10 > will have to navigate to where he/she needs to get as quickly
11 > as possible. With click-through patterns (If you can get the
12 > data) see where people are going and make that most
13 > accessible.. Navigation should be fairly site standard and
14 > potentially even show a hierarchy of where they are in the
15 > site. (ie Home > Solutions > etc) Do we have this data? Is
16 > now the time to do a structure change to allow for faster digging?
17
18 I've been stressing these points since day one, finally someone gets it! If
19 we don't enhance the underlying design of the site (i.e. the "substance") in
20 order to remedy some of the problems with the old design, the redesign would
21 more appropriately be called a "face lift." I don't know what actually goes
22 under the hood with all the xml etc., but to me, as it appears, it's simply
23 a face lift. The functionality hasn't changed one bit. Navigation is still
24 a nightmare. On a site as complex as Gentoo's, users -- especially those
25 new to Gentoo (who also happens to be those who are critical to the growth
26 of Gentoo) -- will be easily lost. They will have a hard time finding the
27 information which they seek to make their decision to use Gentoo or to make
28 their Gentoo experience successful.
29
30 In hindsight, I realized that the project didn't have (I couldn't find) a
31 clearly defined strategy (What is it trying to do? To achieve? And why?
32 What's the ultimate goal?) and corresponding sets of concrete and achievable
33 objectives that feeds into the strategy to make it work.
34
35 When I started the project, I aimed for 3 things 1) to make a solid
36 impression on visitors of the site in order to convey the values and
37 benefits of Gentoo, i.e. in order to gain new users, 2) to make the site a
38 pleasure to browse (for existing and new users), and 3) to make information
39 easy to access. Graphics and eye-candy (if you will) along with
40 strategically placed (and clearly/easily identified) critical "Gentoo
41 elements" helps to achieve 1). 2) and 3) relates to usability (how
42 efficiently and effectively a user can do what they want to do), navigation
43 (how easily can a user move through the structure of the site, not simply
44 linearly as non-linear navigation is what makes moving quick), and "flow"
45 (how intuitive and logical is the structure of the site and the information
46 presented).
47
48 Now it seems that these goals were too ambitious given our limited
49 resources. However, we seem to be taking baby steps toward them, which is a
50 good thing.
51
52 > I've looked at the preview images for the winning contest..
53 > Is it too late to consider moving the three navigation boxes
54 > to the left hand side and or keeping some of the left hand
55 > navigation there..
56
57 Christopher, we've gone a ways since the preview images. A newer proof of
58 concept / early prototype is here: http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/
59
60 > While we are an open source project there are still two very
61 > desirable actions we want users to do..
62 >
63 > 1) Download and try the software (Rename mirrors and get
64 > gentoo to Download and make it very clear where users can
65 > download from.)
66 > 2) Make a donation (this should also be something more than a
67 > standard PayPal button, but still discrete and site blended.)
68
69 Agree with both objectives in the general sense. The donation objective
70 never occurred to me, but it's a very neat idea since Gentoo is an NPO and
71 suffice to say it doesn't sit on a mountain of cash so any extra funding is
72 probably a positive thing.
73
74 Quirks:
75 - The front page news area seems really out of character (the lines, the
76 styles, the indentation, etc. seems "off")
77 - General spacing is messed up, i.e. lots of white space where there
78 shouldn't be
79 - Table borders don't quite fit into the theme
80 - I thought the 3 jump pads are only supposed to appear on the front page?
81
82 I don't think the bolding or whiter shade is necessary for my credits at the
83 bottom. Thanks for thought though, but such credits should be as
84 unobtrusive as possible so that users can better focus their attention
85 elsewhere on what's important. It's probably better left as before --
86 unbold, dark shade of purple (see bottom of
87 http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/guidepage.html).
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90 Aaron
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Replies

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Re: [www-redesign] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org "Christopher Bergström" <cbergstrom@×××××××××.com>
Re: [www-redesign] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>