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On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Barry Schwartz |
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<chemoelectric@×××××××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com> skribis: |
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>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Frank Peters <frank.peters@×××××××.net> wrote: |
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>> > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:15:55 -0700 |
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>> > Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> > |
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>> >> Yesterday I was emerge -DuN @world clean. It took hours due to Gentoo |
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>> >> decisions about multilib stuff. |
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>> >> |
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>> > Is it still necessary to be using multilib? |
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>> > I've been using pure AMD64 for so long I tend to forget that |
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>> > 32-bit stuff still exists. |
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>> > |
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>> > Frank Peters |
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>> Hi Frank, |
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>> Honestly, I really don't know and figure the answer is probably no, |
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>> but it was when I set the machine up this way 5 or so years ago. Even |
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>> today I still see messages from things like Virtualbox drivers saying |
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>> they are using 32-bit modes, but what do I know? When emerge threw all |
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>> this stuff at me Sunday I figured I had no reason to break a machine |
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>> that has been working well so I let it do everything it wanted to do. |
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>> I don't have any problems with them getting rid of emulation libraries |
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>> and having everything built into the packages. I just wasn't prepare |
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>> for the time it required yesterday. |
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> I’m still working on it, myself. Various problems. Nothing I won’t be |
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> able to figure out. My list of things to build ~amd64 instead of amd64 |
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> is growing a bit, for instance. Had to fix one of my overlay |
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> ebuilds. Etc. Removed some 32-bit stuff at least temporarily. I do not |
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> use 32-bit stuff very often. |
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> The main problem at this case is emerge wanting to install libav |
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> despite that I’m set up for ffmpeg. These things happen. |
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> At least if you use emerge as your package manager, it’s probably safe |
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> to go ahead and uninstall the emul packages, if you haven’t. The |
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> binaries will stay in place until you build the replacements. |
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Hi Barry, |
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Yes, uninstalling the emulation libraries is exactly what I did |
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yesterday. It all seemed to work. Everything (nearly 300 packages) |
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built cleanly, and then following that there were another 250 or so |
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that had to be rebuilt I guess to be relinked or something. Anyway, it |
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took a few hours but everything went fine. |
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In my case I've been slowly converting my machine back to nearly |
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100% stable. I don't need anything more than that in my daily work |
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these days and would greatly prefer fewer updates. In the old days |
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when I ran a lot of Gentoo pro-audio overlay stuff I stay to stay |
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leading edge all the time but these days I don't do that and life |
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should be easier. |
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The libav vs ffmpeg thing was an issue for me also but I eventually |
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got through that a couple of weeks ago. As part of 'going stable' I've |
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removed use flags in make.conf and package.use and then basically let |
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portage do its thing. Everything worked fine once I got it all to |
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build. handbrake/makemkv/vlc and (I think) xine are all working now |
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but they weren't for a few days. |
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I was thinking back about my 32-bit usage when I built the machine. |
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In those days (and it's likely still true) to run Windows VST plugins |
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you had to have 32-bit support. I was doing a lot of software synth |
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stuff a decade ago and suspect that was my main need in that area. I |
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don't intentionally use 32-bit for anything so likely I don't need it |
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at all as per Frank's comment but I also didn't feel like I really |
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wanted to deal with that right now. |
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Cheers, |
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Mark |
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