Re: [gentoo-catalyst] Some easy sugestions to implement, I hope

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 01:05 +0000, Nelson Batalha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >You're using Gentoo and haven't figured out how to chroot? :-O  Please
> >forgive my assumptions about this, but last time I checked it was still
> >required to do an installation ;)
>
> Yes,I don't mean just chroot, but there's more to it to simulate catalyst,
> like mounting lots of directories and setting environment variables and so
> on (who knows what it does, I can't read python and I'm a linux noob). I
> have a script for it, but has some problems unmounting dirs, and is probably
> incomplete.

I really, really, REALLY, *REALLY* don't want to implement anything like
that.  As I said, it's a PITA enough supporting catalyst in all the
millions of crazy ways people come up with using it.  Making it "easy",
and thereby encouraging people, to poke around in the caches is the
absolute last thing I want to do.  I'm thinking about my sanity here.

It is *very* rare that you should ever need to do anything in the cache
itself.  For troubleshooting, the information is available via other
means, such as logs and temporary files that aren't deleted on failure.

> Mind you, I love your app, but it's "as easy as its harder point" -> portage
> emerging lots of files wo/errors seems almost impossible. I've written
> dozens ebuilds in the overlay, emerged pkg's on my system. Still having
> errors. This is normal right?

It does take Release Engineering upwards of a month to stabilize any
given snapshot to build a release.  Maybe there's a reason for that.  ;]

Hint: it isn't catalyst's fault (most of the time)

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation