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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 19:47:24
Message-Id: 2f49bf393b04f1b514817317c2ea12f8e8e586df.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/ by Thomas Deutschmann
1 On Thu, 2019-09-05 at 15:14 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
2 > On 2019-09-05 06:02, Michał Górny wrote:
3 > > > In my case I am working on a new mysql eclass to outsource pkg_config
4 > > > function which is shared at least between dev-db/mysql and
5 > > > dev-db/percona-server (and maybe dev-db/mariadb).
6 > > >
7 > > > For this new eclass I would say it's a "per-package" eclass and would
8 > > > probably have skipped mailing list review, too.
9 > >
10 > > Everyone can skip as many paragraphs as they want, and then apply what's
11 > > said later to something said way earlier.
12 >
13 > Could you please stop adding any bad interpretation?
14 >
15 > That was a serious question. For you, it's pretty clear. I am showing
16 > you, that for me, it isn't pretty clear. When you believe I skipped
17 > important lines in my quote please outline what I have missed and I will
18 > take the blame.
19 >
20 >
21 > > > If you want to make it clear, change "should" to "must" and maybe
22 > > > clarify per-package exception and limit to update case if you believe
23 > > > that really *all* *new* eclasses must be send to mailing list.
24 > >
25 > > Submit a part. This is a community effort. Nitpicking and complaining
26 > > doesn't make things better. Fixing them does.
27 >
28 > Sure, but at the moment *you* are the one who are saying it's a MUST. I
29 > don't understand it that way and I am fine with my understanding that
30 > per-package eclasses *should* but *must not* get reviewed through
31 > mailing list. In other words I am asking you to show us where it's
32 > written that *all* *new* eclasses *must* get reviewed through mailing
33 > list. I cannot find something like that in current devmanual (the link
34 > you showed).
35 >
36 > Maybe I am still missing something after reading
37 > https://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-writing/ 3 times...
38 >
39 > In case I am not missing anything I suggested to improve devmanual in
40 > case you believe this should be a hard requirement. Because at the
41 > moment I don't believe it should be a hard requirement, *I* will not
42 > propose any changes.
43 >
44
45 So to summarize, instead of working together in order to follow a well-
46 established policy, you prefer to do whatever you find convenient
47 at the moment, as long as you justify it by finding some document whose
48 wording does not perfectly prevent you from bending the policy? Yes,
49 that sounds like a very good attitude for a Council member.
50
51 --
52 Best regards,
53 Michał Górny

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