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From: Stewart Honsberger <blkdeath@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:10:59
Message-Id: 40353473.7090809@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license by Donnie Berkholz
1 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
2
3 >>Could someone plz point me to those words in new version which cause all
4 >>the troubles?
5 >
6 >
7 > OK, let me lay it out as concisely as possible.
8 >
9 > 1) XFree86 license 1.1 _requires_ attribution with other third-party
10 > attributions.
11 >
12 > 2) This requirement is an additional restriction beyond what the GPL
13 > itself restricts.
14 >
15 > 3) The GPL prohibits any additional restrictions.
16 >
17 > From these three points we conclude:
18 >
19 > 4) The XFree86 license 1.1 is incompatible with the GPL.
20
21 So the only problem with this whole mess is that the XFree people want
22 us to give them credit in the same place and mannar as we already give
23 other third parties credit?
24
25 XFree86, pending a replacement, is the only thing giving Linux any
26 credibility as a desktop operating system. Therefore, I would say it's
27 rather an integral part of the acceptance of our distribution and OS as
28 a whole. As such, I wouldn't think a one-liner in a README, INSTALL, or
29 product literature is such a Big Stinking Deal.
30
31 It's not like they're making the software non-free, they're not
32 demanding royalties, they're not prohibiting the software from being
33 distributed, they're just asking for due credit.
34
35 Think of it from their point of view; when some Joe Schmoe starts up X,
36 they see what - KDE or Gnome. What do they think is providing them a
37 GUI? KDE or Gnome. They don't realize that underneath these environments
38 is a hard-working old man spewing 2D/3D rendering instructions to their
39 video cards and keeping the windows from falling off the screen. All
40 they want is a small heads-up. Is that so wrong?
41
42 I'd really like a point-by-point dissection of the objectionable license
43 changes so we can see the exact reasons why it's unacceptable. Thus far
44 here, other distribution mail list archives, and even on the LKML all
45 I've seen is vague accusations that XFree86 is "no longer free" and
46 "unacceptable" for inclusion/distribution.
47
48 Thank-you in advance for helping us understand a potentially
49 earth-shattering situation over which we seem to have no control.
50
51 --
52 Stewart Honsberger - http://blackdeath.snerk.org/
53 To teach is to learn twice.
54 -- Joseph Joubert
55
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license Tal Peer <coredumb@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license Paul Smith <pausmith@××××××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license George Shapovalov <george@g.o>