Re: [gentoo-dev] kernel team: please make up your mind

[Jason Wever]

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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Greg KH wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 03:15:05PM -0600, Jason Wever wrote:
> > Can we please get a consistent answer on 2.6 kernels when it comes to
> > sparc?  We used to have sparc-development-sources, which we were told to
> > consolidate into development-sources.  Now today with absolutely 0
> > notification what-so-ever, our patchsets to development-sources were
> > yanked because it wasn't the appropriate place.
>
> Sorry for the stress.  There really isn't a kernel team anymore, becides
> me and a few others, and we all seem strung accross different timezones
> these days.

That's about the size of most of our teams.  What was so dire about the 
sparc patch to development-sources that it had to be removed right this 
instant without consulting both SPARC and your own kernel team?
 
> Here's the answer:
> 	- development-sources are clean kernel.org kernels
> 	- gentoo-dev-sources are the current 2.6 kernel trees for all
> 	  arches.  There is no cesspool of patches in there, and it is
> 	  the kernel for the ppc64, amd64, x86, and a few other arches.
> 	  Making it the sparc kernel too is no big deal.
>
> This is needed so that bugs and security fixes that previously have not
> gotten put into the d-s package get applied across all arches quickly
> and easily.
>
> I am willing and able to help the sparc team (and any other arch) to
> make the g-d-s package work for them.
>
> Is that acceptable?

Yes and no.  I'm definitely willing to help work with you to get that 
patch set in there.  However that doesn't change the fact that the 
adjustment of the packages today was very bad as it wasn't communicated at 
all to allow us to at least notify our users that things will change.  
Removing our patchset can and will cause problems for people who were 
using development-sources on sparc, and more than just because they have 
to switch what kernel they use.

If you want to make changes that's fine, just please consider the 
ramifications of those changes and let the people who will be effected 
know with enough time before-hand so that they can do what is needed to 
help make those migration changes as smooth as possible.

- -- 
Jason Wever
Gentoo/Sparc Co-Team Lead
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