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* Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto schrieb am 01.08.11 um 11:19 Uhr: |
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> I agree with Eray. Furthermore, please stop trying to reverse "the |
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> game". It's those that want to break existing policies and conventions |
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> that have to justify why they want to do that, not those that want to |
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> keep using what has worked for years. |
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I wouldn't call the current static -workarounds, and files from / using |
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files from /usr, neither a clean solution or working |
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The separation is unnecessary maintaince burden for something that has |
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maintaince free replacement |
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> You may not need or like it, but I want to be able to use |
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> partition schemes like the following without needing to use |
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> an initramfs: |
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Sorry for dismissing the lines below that ":" mark then. Feel free to |
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ignore me, no offense taken, but I'll be disappointed if you won't |
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provide a reasoning for resisting part of the solution |
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> Also, desktop users that don't split the /usr path might not like the |
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> "stress" that /usr/portage will add to the / partition - not to talk |
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> about the size and inode constraints. |
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Good point, so handbook will need a patch for /usr/portage partition |
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recommendation after the fact |
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> I'm growing tired of how complex and over-designed desktop technologies |
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> that hide stuff from the users keep trying to break the "unix way" and |
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> convince us they're "awesome". No, I don't need or want *kit, groups |
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> exist for something. No, applications that do "magic stuff" with dbus |
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> and xml (and I like xml) on the users back and hide how X work aren't a |
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> "good thing(tm)". |
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Then one should do something about it, like providing an alternative or |
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at very least, provide upstreams with patches for making the new stacks |
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optional |
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> Finally, Gentoo's init system is and will likely be for a long time |
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> openrc, so stop trying to push crazy or experimental init systems - most |
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> with a seemingly "poor design" and unable to do what an init system |
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> needs to do (start and stop services). |
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This isn't about systemd, but indeed it will solve one compability |
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obstacle for them too. No harm there. |