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From: expose@×××××××××××.net
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 22:08:03
Message-Id: 200705060000.11536.expose@luftgetrock.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42 by Ciaran McCreesh
1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 > That'll just increase the amount of disagreement about news items
3 > because it'll give people more pointless wording to argue over.
4 After all, something I agree with.
5
6 > It's quite simple. If releasing a news item improves the user
7 > experience of affected users more than not releasing it, the news item
8 > should be released.
9 What exactly in "Critical News Reporting" is unclear here?
10 As everyone still talks about "News Reporting" it has to be the "Critical".
11 Let's try to define it:
12 "News items must only be for important changes that may cause serious upgrade
13 or compatibility problems." (Source is GLEP 42)
14 Let's get the next thing straight:
15 Paludis will still work, after the upgrade, but it will produce warnings.
16 So there are no problems at all, it still works just fine.
17
18 Plus, a message saying
19 "You still use the old config file format. Please replace * with */*"
20 can hardly be misunderstood, in contrast to what you claimed when saying
21 > Experience has shown that without a news item, many users will ask for
22 > clarification or confirmation before making any changes, and with a
23 > news item users will be reassured that they're doing the right thing
24 > and that this is a deliberate change.
25 (Ciaran McCreesh today on 23:06:31)
26
27 If users dont trust the warning the code produces, why should they believe in
28 a news item?
29
30 It just aint a critical issue, unless Paludis will stop working unless the
31 config is fixed, and deliberatly breaking it now, to get that news item
32 anyway, is
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