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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Niches and new developers (especially xbox)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:48:52
Message-Id: 1086976659.26144.100.camel@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Niches and new developers (especially xbox) by Chris Bainbridge
1 On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 12:45, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
2 > Actually the DMCA says:
3 >
4 > `(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide,
5 > or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component,
6 > or part thereof, that--
7 >
8 > `(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing
9 > a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected
10 > under this title;
11
12 We would be offering to the public the instructions on how to bypass the
13 technological measure that controls access to the Xbox BIOS. We would
14 absolutely be breaking part A.
15
16 > `(B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than
17 > to circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a
18 > work protected under this title; or
19
20 Our documentation would be exactly this. It would have no purpose other
21 than to inform people on how to bypass Microsoft's access controls.
22
23 > `(C) is marketed by that person or another acting in concert with that
24 > person with that person's knowledge for use in circumventing a technological
25 > measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this
26 > title.
27
28 Would we have the documentation on our servers? Is that not marketing
29 it?
30
31 > Neither the Cromwell bios or the linux kernel are primarily designed to allow
32 > piracy of xbox games. Xbox-linux has a significant purpose other than piracy.
33 > Both of these would have to be false for the DMCA to apply.
34
35 You are correct, which is why I never said anything about supplying the
36 ebuilds to facilitate an Xbox install, only the possibility of
37 documentation, which would be required for an "official" release.
38
39 > As for mirroring xbox-linux files, that is covered by title ii of the DMCA -
40 > "System caching", which states that anybody who mirrors something isn't
41 > liable unless they have received and ignored a take-down notification from
42 > the copyright owner. Again I fail to see how the DMCA applies to xbox-linux
43 > here. There has been no take-down notification, and no copyright owner has
44 > staked a claim to any of the IP in xbox-linux.
45
46 I never even said anything about not mirroring the files which were
47 created legally by members of the open source community.
48
49 > In contrast, can you provide a justification for media-libs/libdvdcss to be in
50 > gentoo, given that it actually decrypts copyrighted works (xbox-linux does
51 > not), and the DVD-CCA and MPAA have both complained about it? It appears to
52 > clearly violate your standards for being in gentoo.
53
54 I cannot give any justification because I have none. I did not add the
55 ebuild, nor do I maintain it. I would probably vote for its removal
56 from portage, rather than have the MPAA come after us, if someone were
57 to ask. However, that ebuild is not my responsibility. I *am*
58 responsible to the Release Engineering team, and think it is a good idea
59 for our works to not be something that could possibly land us in any
60 legal trouble.
61
62 --
63 Chris Gianelloni
64 Release Engineering QA Manager/Games Developer
65 Gentoo Linux
66
67 Is your power animal a penguin?

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