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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Cc: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] AMD64 Arch Testers needed urgently
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 20:54:00
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr9rJM+KFDwagvnO9-XTLz9u93C2S576RR11zgDkYjCHmQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] AMD64 Arch Testers needed urgently by Kristian Fiskerstrand
1 On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@g.o>
2 wrote:
3
4 > On 12/14/2017 01:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
5 > > In the beginning the system would be opt-in. Then once we have
6 > > confidence that it is working well the flag could potentially be made
7 > > opt-out.
8 >
9 > The only place I imagine this being a good idea is for the kernel, given
10 > the strict no break of userland policy (but even they fail from time to
11 > time). For rest of the applications, even if we add tools to help
12 > automate part of the stabilization, I'd very much oppose it being
13 > automated without being initiated / acked by the maintainer.
14 >
15
16 This reminds me a bit of advertising actually:
17
18 "Nineteenth century Philadelphia retailer John Wanamaker supposedly said
19 “Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't
20 know which half.” "
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22 I feel like stabilization are similar; we know many of them are likely safe
23 and don't need humans. But many are unsafe and require validation.
24 Can we tell them apart? Perhaps Rich's flag is sufficient?
25
26 Its also a risk mitigation problem. Is it better for Gentoo to have more
27 packages marked stable (so that stable is closer to HEAD). Or is it more
28 valauble
29 for Gentoo to have a very old stable (like debian) and then have a split
30 keywords system?
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32 I'm skeptical the keywords for most packages matter, particularly on common
33 arches. Remember this is usually software that upstream
34 already tested and released; so most of the bugs would be ebuild / Gentoo
35 related.
36
37 -A
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43 > --
44 > Kristian Fiskerstrand
45 > OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
46 > fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3
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Re: [gentoo-dev] AMD64 Arch Testers needed urgently Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o>